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[WildHorse]

For that kinda money ... I'd hope it would be faster than a 7 min lap.
Actually I would expect at least a 6:50 ... But congrats to Ford for getting a sub 7min.

 

[WItoTX]

For that kinda money ... I'd hope it would be faster than a 7 min lap.
Actually I would expect at least a 6:50 ... But congrats to Ford for getting a sub 7min.

6.40. A GT3 is quicker around the ring, and for a less butt puckering price.

Ford has some work to do. I suspect this thing is way heavier than anyone anticipated.

 

[WildHorse]

I suspect this thing is way heavier than anyone anticipated.

Definitely. Hence why I said a 6:50. But yer right, it's probably a pig.

 

[MAGS1]

They’re going back, they have more juice to squeeze from that lemon. We’ll see how much juice is left in there

 

[Deadly0ne]

If I'm not mistaken the first run was in sub-optimal conditions, so they may be able to squeeze some more juice out of the GTD. For that kind of money though...they better!

Still a really cool achievement for Ford. Glad to see they still have some motivation to try and compete in that arena.

 

[WildHorse]

They’re going back

With a ringer no doubt.

 

[MAGS1]

With a ringer no doubt.

For sure. If they can shave ~15 seconds off that time, I’d say that’s pretty good

 

[WItoTX]

For sure. If they can shave ~15 seconds off that time, I’d say that’s pretty good

I think 15 seconds would be a good improvement, and would meet the "hype" the car has received to date.

 

[wingnutt]

drop 15 seconds? Not a chance, that’s a huge ask.

the Merc One went from 6:35 to 6:29 with a whole lot more everything…I doubt the GTD gets much under 6:50 even after the repaving that’s coming in the spring

 

[xcm77]

If I'm not mistaken the first run was in sub-optimal conditions[...]

the chance of getting optimal conditions on that track is .... moderate at best.

Also keep in mind it's bumpy af and not as grippy as one would expect

 

[greasy]

The Mustang platform is hindering its performance. I love the GTD, it’s such a cool car, but you aren’t going to be top of the heap at the ring in a car based off of this platform, it’s just not possible without an already exorbitant cost. The 2025 ZR1 is going to smash the GTD at a reduced price to the tune of roughly $125K less.

 

[tosha]

15 seconds is just not happening. Same car, same driver, same tires it's eternity. Conditions might have been not the best possible, but they were not driving it in pouring rain or snow.

The Mustang platform is hindering its performance. I love the GTD, it’s such a cool car, but you aren’t going to be top of the heap at the ring in a car based off of this platform, it’s just not possible without an already exorbitant cost. The 2025 ZR1 is going to smash the GTD at a reduced price to the tune of roughly $125K less.

It will look cool in Jay Leno's garage. For the price and extremely limited run, that's all that matters. ZR1 is the real deal, it will be all time great.

 

[mavisky]

6.40. A GT3 is quicker around the ring, and for a less butt puckering price.

Ford has some work to do. I suspect this thing is way heavier than anyone anticipated.

At the end of the day they have to base this around two large lumps of metal. The steel chassis and crash structure of the S650 including it's heavy doors and a variant of the Predator 5.2.

We have seen with the S550 Shelby cars that there are only a few pounds of savings in replacing the hood and fenders with carbon items and the plastic bumpers aren't going to shed any reasonable weight with a switch too.

On top of that you're looking at some savings from some aluminum suspension pieces and subframes, but we're not shaving hundreds here with those items and some of that is going to be offset by the even wider wheels and larger brakes and the hydraulic systems for the active aero and height adjustable suspension.

I'd wager that this car is coming it at around 3700lbs in the best case scenario and is likely heavier.

For comparison the AM GT Black Series front/mid-engined and rwd with big aero. It is 3,600lbs and makes 720hp. It lapped the ring in 6:43 on a set of Michelin Cup 2R tires. It's also right around $320,000

If the GTD has 100more hp, similar aero, and even wider Cup2 R tires and it is 14 seconds slower, that says to me that it's got a weight/calibration disadvantage compared to the AMG and probably more than just 100lbs. Obviously they didn't have the best day, and on 6-7 minute course it would be easy to gain tenths all along the way and maybe cut that gap in half bringing them to a 6:50, but anything below that seems like it would take a massive change.

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