getting new short block

[Mr981]

this is my second coyote and 6th modular ford. I have built/rebuilt more of them than I can count now and the Coyote, while a strong motor, has a lot off odd issues IMHO.

From your original video on the noise, it has a pretty deep tone compared to lifters or other valve train noises. Piston slap?
Anyway, if Ford has recognized it and has gone as far as offering a short block they know the motor is bad.
At 2500 miles that's pretty disconcerting; if you weren't going to go with a new GT, what other car would you buy?

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[keltymd]

From your original video on the noise, it has a pretty deep tone compared to lifters or other valve train noises. Piston slap?
Anyway, if Ford has recognized it and has gone as far as offering a short block they know the motor is bad.
At 2500 miles that's pretty disconcerting; if you weren't going to go with a new GT, what other car would you buy?

Piston Slap:
Piston slap occurs when the gap between piston and cylinder is too wide. Through wear and tear, the gap between piston and cylinder becomes wider. The noise associated with piston slap occurs in association with the perpendicular movement of the piston

I am not sure. I have had Mustangs my entire driving life and since I was a little kid loved them. What else in the price range is there really? Camaro... um no way... Challenger/Charger nice but heavy boats not a car for the twisties. BMW M4 a little on the pricey side

 

[Evolvd]

You might have a case for lemon law as TN allows three service attempts or a total of 30 days. But by reading your thread it looks like this is the third attempt and they are replacing the motor...so maybe you won't have a case. Call a lawyer, advice is usually free.

 

[astolt12]

As someone who probably had the very first engine tick I am now JUST finishing my lemon law process from over a year ago.

Sometime back in May-ish 2015 i hadthe same thing...Oil change at 2500 and then sudden ticking. It took me 6 months to get them to acknowledge it and then ultimately replace the engine.

After that everything in the car went downhill. Other problems arose and I tried to rationale with Ford to repair the transmission, brakes, and gauge cluster issues. Everything came back "normal." So I had enough and lemon law'd the car.

Now im waiting for them to finish up the paperwork so I can get in the replacement '17 mustang.

Dont stand for their crap; just lemon law it. In most states post 2009 the lemon law is a 1:1 swap meaning no mileage charge and you get right back in a brand new car.

 

[Mr981]

Piston Slap:
Piston slap occurs when the gap between piston and cylinder is too wide. Through wear and tear, the gap between piston and cylinder becomes wider. The noise associated with piston slap occurs in association with the perpendicular movement of the piston

I am not sure. I have had Mustangs my entire driving life and since I was a little kid loved them. What else in the price range is there really? Camaro... um no way... Challenger/Charger nice but heavy boats not a car for the twisties. BMW M4 a little on the pricey side

If you're you're in the market for a good looking, fast coupe that will handle for under $40K, there aren't a lot of choices. BMW's M2 is around $50k but good luck finding one.
I think this current gen. Camaro is better than the one it replaced, has a good V8 and from reports is fun to drive, but the visibility for me is still a no-go and while the styling is better, it doesn't hold a candle to the Mustang. The Chrysler products have gotten better, but the reliability is still poor.
The Mustang is the obvious choice for that price, but after getting a bad one--and having issues with the dealer--buying another would be a bit of leap of faith.

 

[keltymd]

You might have a case for lemon law as TN allows three service attempts or a total of 30 days. But by reading your thread it looks like this is the third attempt and they are replacing the motor...so maybe you won't have a case. Call a lawyer, advice is usually free.

I have already started the process via the BBB. I am at day 40 our of service and the car is still in the shop. I have also started to see if Ford will do a Good Faith replacement (I doubt it). The key is even if they replace the short block thy have exceeded the allowable tome to have the car so the process can take place.

 

[Evolvd]

As someone who probably had the very first engine tick I am now JUST finishing my lemon law process from over a year ago.

Sometime back in May-ish 2015 i hadthe same thing...Oil change at 2500 and then sudden ticking. It took me 6 months to get them to acknowledge it and then ultimately replace the engine.

After that everything in the car went downhill. Other problems arose and I tried to rationale with Ford to repair the transmission, brakes, and gauge cluster issues. Everything came back "normal." So I had enough and lemon law'd the car.

Now im waiting for them to finish up the paperwork so I can get in the replacement '17 mustang.

Dont stand for their crap; just lemon law it. In most states post 2009 the lemon law is a 1:1 swap meaning no mileage charge and you get right back in a brand new car.

TN law says they can depreciate the value due to use.

 

[keltymd]

TN law says they can depreciate the value due to use.

Yep 50% of IRS allowable millage charge. But only until the first report of an issue. so 2507*0.27=$676.89

 

[keltymd]

Dealer just called. Today is day 30 they have had the car and they said it is ready. I told them I would have to talk to Ford and the BBB before I would say if I would pick it up or not.

 

[keltymd]

Well the BBB said I have to pick it up or pay the dealer for storage. Fun

 

[mustang1]

Dealer just called. Today is day 30 they have had the car and they said it is ready. I told them I would have to talk to Ford and the BBB before I would say if I would pick it up or not.

what's the timeline for the engine repair? And what was the diagnosis? I think for lemon law, you need more than 30 days for the same repair.

 

[keltymd]

It's 30 days out of service or three times to the dealer for the same issue. Mine has been there 44 days and 3 times already.

 

[mustang1]

It's 30 days out of service or three times to the dealer for the same issue. Mine has been there 44 days and 3 times already.

May not be easy to make a LL case, with the car ready. The first 14 days may be subject to debate, at least based on what you typed in the first posting. Did they say anything else than "That's Odd" ?

As for the speeding, I am doubting that will factor in.

 

[keltymd]

And they could feel the issue in the shifter. The bbb agrees with me

 

[mustang1]

And they could feel the issue in the shifter. The bbb agrees with me

feel what in the shifter? Tapping noise? Saying "that's odd" could be anything.

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