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This. Unless you're a competitive bodybuilder and you're getting ready for a show, then you don't need to be eating 6 meals a day or whatever. There is a ton of science that proves that eating 6 small meals a day to "stoke the metabolism" isn't any different than eating 3 meals a day with the same macros.

IIFYM is perfect for the everyday person looking to eat clean while still enjoying the same foods you love. I follow it and already in two weeks I've lost like 3lbs. I'm not looking to lose weight, I'm just looking to eat healthier and live a more healthy lifestyle than I did last year. I have horrible acid reflux and I've been noticing that eating a little cleaner has helped a lot. Still have to take my medication but other than that it helps a lot.

Oh, one key to dieting is water intake. I can't stress enough how important it is to drink lots of water. Aim for a gallon a day. What I used to do is take one of those gallon milk jugs and fill it. As long as I finish it by the time I go to bed I'm good.


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I dunno how people manage to bulk with only 3 meals. I tried it and it seems like unless you want to do it dirty, you're going to have a hard time eating that much, let alone eating it within a timely manner....
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You can bulk on three meals. It's all about caloric surplus. If you're in a surplus, you'll gain. If you're in a deficit, you'll lose.


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I dunno how people manage to bulk with only 3 meals. I tried it and it seems like unless you want to do it dirty, you're going to have a hard time eating that much, let alone eating it within a timely manner....
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IIFYM is my go-to, and I also used to do IF when I worked at the gym, but I think the whole idea of "eating clean" isn't geared around aesthetics or strength development. You could form a diet to fit your macros that consists of basic nutrients and junk food, but your long term health will benefit from eating clean and getting valuable vitamins, minerals, and all that other good stuff beyond basic macro needs. It's all probably stuff you know, this is just kind of an addition to what you posted.

Youre right, people like to stretch the limits of something and go beyond the intended purpose. Junk food is still junk food but by following IIFYM it allows for people to be more laxed in their selection of food, if you want a cookie or something sweet then budget it in to your daily macros but overall everything should be nutrient dense. I should have been more clear when describing, I was thinking whole grain bread vs white bread or brown rice vs white rice type stuff. Thanks for clearing it up:thumbsup:
 

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Geesus guys I got a side ache and am winded just reading all of this! I'm in the worst shape of my life right now so thank you to everyone for all the insight and methods used.

I know there are a ton of different ways to get in shape, but the single biggest one for me is the mental aspect.

Damn the fact that Girl Scout cookies just came in!
The biggest thing to stay in shape is to find an activity you LIKE to do. As someone mentioned they like playing sports, I personally like lifting weights and challenging myself I am very competitive with myself. As far as diet goes, the best diet is the one you can stick with it all comes down to how bad you want something. If you really want to get in shape you will make things work, anyone can come up with an excuse. There are some days where I dont even want to go to the gym, it also helps to develop a routine.
 

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Core compound movements are all that are needed. I honestly don't believe any isolation movements are needed.

I know you see bodybuilders doing isolation type movements but if you aren't one of the professionals, no need for that. I think it is a waste.

Squat, deadlift, bench, military/overhead press, rows, chin-up/pull-ups. Add some HIIT once or twice a week and have a spot on diet...Boom..you will be in great shape.
Bingo! Compound movements means multiple joints are involved. Bench press not only targets your chest but also your shoulders and triceps (back of arm) and rows work your mid back, lats and biceps those 2 exercises right there just did most of your upper body. Deadlifts will work your entire posterior chain meaning your entire backside from neck to calves and squat uses more than just legs as your core (low back/abs) are needed to support you body. Do not follow a typical body building routine as it is junk and wont do you any good for a few reasons, 1. youre not on steroids. Durgs affect how and when you can train. Your recovery time is enhanced, your volume, intensity and frequency can all be enhanced and 99.9% of the bodybuilders whether amateur or pro are using some sort of performance enhancer. 2. as a beginner less is more. There is no need to do isolation exercises when the muscles youre isolating are being worked with the compound movements, its redundant and a waste. There is especially no need for an arm day which I see far too often in the gym and these people are usually newbies or high school kids. No need to spend the entire day in the gym either, I am in there for about an hour and some change which includes my warm up and stretching for 15-20min or so. Weight lifting or exercise in general is a big stressor on the body and your body is not designed to be under that much stress for long periods of time unless youre enhanced. All your results are made away from the gym when your body is repairing itself from the healthy foods you eat.
 

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The second part of your statement regarding nicotine is debatable, albeit much like anything that has to do with sports nutrition. The fact that nicotine is thermogenic doesn’t negate it’s side effects, such as what it can do to your CNS. Irrespective of the dosage, I don't believe it to be worth keeping in your diet.

Regarding your second point on marcos, I’m not a fan of that approach for multiple reasons including those touched upon by OppoLock. I worry about my "micros" just as much if not more than my macros. Agree to disagree.:cheers:
I cleared it up in another post, I was in a hurry to leave work and was typing too fast. I wasnt giving the green light to eat junk. I agree with you about the macro/micro:thumbsup:
 

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I dunno how people manage to bulk with only 3 meals. I tried it and it seems like unless you want to do it dirty, you're going to have a hard time eating that much, let alone eating it within a timely manner....
I have no problem doing it and I take in about 3200cal/day. its about eating how you feel fit, if thats 8 meals a day or 1 do what you like and what works for you.
 

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You can bulk on three meals. It's all about caloric surplus. If you're in a surplus, you'll gain. If you're in a deficit, you'll lose.


I have a real hard time gaining any mass. The more I eat the more I go to the bathroom. January 2014 I weighed 148lbs @ 6' tall and thanks to a very rigorous workout plan at the gym and a modified diet plus protein supplementation I barely managed to gain 25lbs over about 7-8 months and I've hit a brick wall since then. I've switched from simple whey isolate to mass gainers(Optimum Nutrition Pro Mass Gain) and switched a few things with my workout routine but I'm still right around 173-175lbs.

Unfortunately I bought a new house that's about 30-40 minutes from the gym we've been using so we are going to switch to another gym but life has been getting in the way of getting back to my workout regimen so I've only been able to workout at home.
 

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I have a real hard time gaining any mass. The more I eat the more I go to the bathroom. January 2014 I weighed 148lbs @ 6' tall and thanks to a very rigorous workout plan at the gym and a modified diet plus protein supplementation I barely managed to gain 25lbs over about 7-8 months and I've hit a brick wall since then. I've switched from simple whey isolate to mass gainers(Optimum Nutrition Pro Mass Gain) and switched a few things with my workout routine but I'm still right around 173-175lbs.

Unfortunately I bought a new house that's about 30-40 minutes from the gym we've been using so we are going to switch to another gym but life has been getting in the way of getting back to my workout regimen so I've only been able to workout at home.
Youre not gonna gain over night. I would give it 2-3 weeks without a gain in weight to increase calories by about 250/day. If your weight is stable then you are at maintenance, which is good to know! Olive oil or any healthy oil is a good way to bump calories up since 1tbsp is 120 calories.
 

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Youre not gonna gain over night. I would give it 2-3 weeks without a gain in weight to increase calories by about 250/day.

I've been at the same weight for about 6 months now. It took 7-8 months to get the 25lbs I gained from when I started.
 

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I've been at the same weight for about 6 months now. It took 7-8 months to get the 25lbs I gained from when I started.
Then you need to bump it up 250-500/day with 500 being on the very very high side
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