Flores beef with procharger

[80FoxCoupe]

sorry…couldn’t let that one go

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[schmeky]

If Flores is bashing Procharger then I have to tune him out. I think he is no longer relevant and is merely wining for attention.

Lund let me down years back; Wengerd is the way to go with tuning.

My P1X Procharger has been amazing, and I would recommend it to anyone.

 

[beefcake]

everybody knows the issues I had with Lund. I was their largest dealer sent them over $1 million in tuning

After we had issues with the tuning on my personal car for 10 months I had to have juggernaut fix my tune

And then the relationship just went sour. They were trying so many nasty things on the backside, even though I was still their largest dealer.

They were trying to get me blacklisted from Hp Tuners. They were bad mouthing the company all because they couldn’t fix a tune over an airflow calculation which we told him. It was probably an airflow calculation for 10 months.

They had Flora start running his mouth on the channel trying to say that we use a stolen to file juggernaut did this that everything under the sun to try to save face?

Why the hell would anyone want a tune file that doesn’t freaking work?

That’s the whole point we spent probably eight to $10,000 traveling to national events to not even be able to get all the way down the truck for almost an entire season

What they should’ve did was put Jr on a plane and come and figure out and fix my damn car

I’ve sent you $1 million and all you wanna do is known Good file me

The final straw came when they told his way to completely rewire our PCM that we had relocated

Bryan at Finish Line said they discussed ignorant we’ve rewired 30 or 40 PCM’s. We’ve never had an issue and the issue started when we put the larger turbo on the car that’s the only thing that changed.

Back then, the car was making probably close to 1500 wheel. Pretty much more than any tense Speed was making it time.

But they just put themselves on too high of a pedestal to say hey maybe you were missing something

I don’t even know how many Tuner left. I think it’s just Jr and Flores at this point.

They say they don’t have any influence on his show yet they just let him go out and badmouth customers badmouth companies and I think it’s everything that they wanna say that just as a company they can’t say

Then they sent him after me, which was a big mistake

I play chess. I don’t play checkers.

I dumped them publicly hard and pulled hundreds of thousand dollars a year of tuning money

Rerouted that money to companies like juggernaut five star Palm Beach Wengerd.

People that I feel give better attention, more personalized service and honestly less money

At this point, I feel they’re pretty irrelevant in the Mustang tuning world

It’s been hilarious watching them like suck off all my high profile customers that are friends of mine

Like my customer, Joe Glockner he’s a very good friend of mine now and very fast with his trouble, 400 car

The way that Jr cucks him to keep him from jumping shit is hilarious

Anybody that’s anybody in the industry and every type of thing from tuning to suspension fall unfolded with me and Lung

They just sat back in Awe and said this guy is selling $200,000 a year in tuning for you and he won’t go try to figure out this car lol

The level of arrogance is mind-boggling It’s just amazing that year after year they follow the same form of it’s just so unsuccessful

We’ve got Greg at gsc working on some new cams for the GEN four he already asked him for the GEN threes

And the first that went to steeda and instead of really taking time to work on the cans or just like we made a little power, but we’d rather just use stock cams then really take the time to play with him and see where they can make the most power

So of course we’re gonna put a set on our pro charge card that’s making over 1100 wheel and do an actual back to back test and see what kind of power we can make

Yes, you can make great power on stock cams but like anything there’s always room for improvement

As far as Procharger has a company of Procharger is an amazing company we toured the facility last year

They make 98% of their porch and house here in America

Email a quality control and innovative that goes on their is simply amazing

Every supercharger has a birth certificate. They can follow anything everything about your kit with it.

They make great power we could our 24 dark horse for 4340 pounds second trip out we went at 895

Easy Peezy formula.

Anything that comes out of their mouthpieces mouth is your irrelevant. His show is an attempted comedy and an attempt is about as good as it gets.

As far as tuning goes, the guys were using out so much happier with customers are happier with not just for my money and Point, but from the standpoint of better customer service

Of course we typically answer the phone from about 8:30 AM to 10 PM seven days a week so you still get our great customer service on top of the great tuning.

 

[SolarFlare]

His beef is with someone from procharger. Much like his beef with Kelly Aiken. His dislike for the person has poured over to bad mouthing the product. That is all

 

[Swtbabybilly]

everybody knows the issues I had with Lund. I was their largest dealer sent them over $1 million in tuning

After we had issues with the tuning on my personal car for 10 months I had to have juggernaut fix my tune

And then the relationship just went sour. They were trying so many nasty things on the backside, even though I was still their largest dealer.

They were trying to get me blacklisted from Hp Tuners. They were bad mouthing the company all because they couldn’t fix a tune over an airflow calculation which we told him. It was probably an airflow calculation for 10 months.

They had Flora start running his mouth on the channel trying to say that we use a stolen to file juggernaut did this that everything under the sun to try to save face?

Why the hell would anyone want a tune file that doesn’t freaking work?

That’s the whole point we spent probably eight to $10,000 traveling to national events to not even be able to get all the way down the truck for almost an entire season

What they should’ve did was put Jr on a plane and come and figure out and fix my damn car

I’ve sent you $1 million and all you wanna do is known Good file me

The final straw came when they told his way to completely rewire our PCM that we had relocated

Bryan at Finish Line said they discussed ignorant we’ve rewired 30 or 40 PCM’s. We’ve never had an issue and the issue started when we put the larger turbo on the car that’s the only thing that changed.

Back then, the car was making probably close to 1500 wheel. Pretty much more than any tense Speed was making it time.

But they just put themselves on too high of a pedestal to say hey maybe you were missing something

I don’t even know how many Tuner left. I think it’s just Jr and Flores at this point.

They say they don’t have any influence on his show yet they just let him go out and badmouth customers badmouth companies and I think it’s everything that they wanna say that just as a company they can’t say

Then they sent him after me, which was a big mistake

I play chess. I don’t play checkers.

I dumped them publicly hard and pulled hundreds of thousand dollars a year of tuning money

Rerouted that money to companies like juggernaut five star Palm Beach Wengerd.

People that I feel give better attention, more personalized service and honestly less money

At this point, I feel they’re pretty irrelevant in the Mustang tuning world

It’s been hilarious watching them like suck off all my high profile customers that are friends of mine

Like my customer, Joe Glockner he’s a very good friend of mine now and very fast with his trouble, 400 car

The way that Jr cucks him to keep him from jumping shit is hilarious

Anybody that’s anybody in the industry and every type of thing from tuning to suspension fall unfolded with me and Lung

They just sat back in Awe and said this guy is selling $200,000 a year in tuning for you and he won’t go try to figure out this car lol

The level of arrogance is mind-boggling It’s just amazing that year after year they follow the same form of it’s just so unsuccessful

We’ve got Greg at gsc working on some new cams for the GEN four he already asked him for the GEN threes

And the first that went to steeda and instead of really taking time to work on the cans or just like we made a little power, but we’d rather just use stock cams then really take the time to play with him and see where they can make the most power

So of course we’re gonna put a set on our pro charge card that’s making over 1100 wheel and do an actual back to back test and see what kind of power we can make

Yes, you can make great power on stock cams but like anything there’s always room for improvement

As far as Procharger has a company of Procharger is an amazing company we toured the facility last year

They make 98% of their porch and house here in America

Email a quality control and innovative that goes on their is simply amazing

Every supercharger has a birth certificate. They can follow anything everything about your kit with it.

They make great power we could our 24 dark horse for 4340 pounds second trip out we went at 895

Easy Peezy formula.

Anything that comes out of their mouthpieces mouth is your irrelevant. His show is an attempted comedy and an attempt is about as good as it gets.

As far as tuning goes, the guys were using out so much happier with customers are happier with not just for my money and Point, but from the standpoint of better customer service

Of course we typically answer the phone from about 8:30 AM to 10 PM seven days a week so you still get our great customer service on top of the great tuning.

Thanks for sharing all this with us because if they treat you like this they sure ain't going to give a shit about my broke ass getting 1 tune for a street car

 

[GrabberBargeCaptain]

Thanks for sharing all this with us because if they treat you like this they sure ain't going to give a shit about my broke ass getting 1 tune for a street car

There's a thread on here about a guy who had problems with his 10 speed after the tune and they insisted he had a bad transmission-he replaced it and the issue persisted. Seems like they have a good tune for majority of cars out there but if your car is an outlier, oh well, must be your car

 

[beefcake]

Thanks for sharing all this with us because if they treat you like this they sure ain't going to give a shit about my broke ass getting 1 tune for a street car

There's a thread on here about a guy who had problems with his 10 speed after the tune and they insisted he had a bad transmission-he replaced it and the issue persisted. Seems like they have a good tune for majority of cars out there but if your car is an outlier, oh well, must be your car

we had one customer that bought a bunch of Sunco transmission parts. They said they refused to tune suncoast stuff because suncoast and us do a lot of stuff.

Said that they can’t tune the stuff properly because it’s no good

I told the customer to wait two weeks and tell them he put a different brand of transmission in, and the customer did and then they tuned it and the tune perfectly fine

lol

 

[Jasonb543]

They lost me when they just bashed the S650 relentlessly. If they can’t make pure profit margins then to them “it’s traaash” lol.

I’d love to see their books, too bad they aren’t public, I bet they’re in sequential decline.

 

[Pws6]

we had one customer that bought a bunch of Sunco transmission parts. They said they refused to tune suncoast stuff because suncoast and us do a lot of stuff.

Said that they can’t tune the stuff properly because it’s no good

I told the customer to wait two weeks and tell them he put a different brand of transmission in, and the customer did and then they tuned it and the tune perfectly fine

lol

Have seen people do the same thing with fuel systems when they refused to tune anything that wasn't fore

 

[NGOT8R]

Does anyone know of a list of tuners, who work with any fuel system (regardless of brand) as long as it’s capable of safely supporting the power goal?

 

[beefcake]

Does anyone know of a list of tuners, who work with any fuel system (regardless of brand) as long as it’s capable of safely supporting the power goal?

any of our tunes should have no issue

https://www.beefcakeracing.com/tech-custom-tuning/

 

[SnowFox]

Never dealt with lund and never intend on doing so. I did notice the other day they got pulled from the ESS tuner list.

I can certainly see how sometimes tuners can get the blame when it isn't their fault. As nearly any company can. HOWEVER with Lund I just saw way to many common denominators across more than a few forums, reddit.

I don't know how to tune a car these days lol. So to me, one of the biggest things that I need to be sold on is trust not HP numbers necessarily. And since allot of this is remotely, trust is difficult to earn but easy to loose on the Internet.

When I deal with Companies and people like @beefcake or @wengurd I literally wish I had more business to give them.

 

[schmeky]

I trust Terry (Beefcake Racing) 100%. If he recommends it or supports it, I'm in.

His service is top notch.

 

[robvas]

So why did they get pulled from the ESS list?

I am assuming the tune for any centrifugal car is basically going to be the exact same (at least for the same boost levels) other than MAF/injector specifics...

 

[DiamondInc]

For all the Lund bashing, theyve tuned my 17 both NA and recently boosted and car drives great. Fast response time (usually within the hour during opening time). I'd be more worried to use other big name tuners after all the stories of being ghosted.

Also used Beefcake to order some parts recently. Always been a good experience as well leading up to my purchase. I would share some real experiences if you have used the company before. Everyone entitled to their opinions (Alex included).

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