Fl-2087 oil filter

[ShelbyMike21]

So, I posted the below in the GT500 section. It is more applicable here.

The 2018 and below manual supplement spec the 2062. The 2019 and 20 spec 2087.

I don't recall if manual addendums were released calling for all model years to switch to the 2087.

I went to Ford and downloaded the second (final) printing of the manual supplement. It still specs the 2062.

Has there been anything from Ford that supersedes the latest manual supplement and directs the FL-2087 filter for all '17 and above 350's?

I used to use the FL 2062 all the time without issue to include track use.

I don't see the difference between all the model years. It is the same engine. for all practical purposes.

Filter housing should be the same. I have a 2018 and I went to dealer, their system shows FL-2087 not FL-2062.

I was using 2062 with no issues and now im on 2087. Base on my research, the only difference is 2087 is stronger due to internal is metal. I also notice oil pressure on 2087 is actually little bit lower than 2062 across all driving condition. maybe about 5-10 ??? Im assuming thats because 2087 flows little bit better than 2062 ???

the only hard part is getting the 2087. They are all out of stock atm.

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[svttim]

Just got back from my oil change. Have done two changes in two months (tracking) dealer has zero issues with KR3Z6731A filters

 

[huskeee]

Filter housing should be the same. I have a 2018 and I went to dealer, their system shows FL-2087 not FL-2062.

I was using 2062 with no issues and now im on 2087. Base on my research, the only difference is 2087 is stronger due to internal is meta. I also notice oil pressure on 2087 is actually little bit lower than 2062 across all driving condition. maybe about 5-10 ??? Im assuming thats because 2087 flows little bit better than 2062 ???

the only hard part is getting the 2087. They are all out of stock atm.

That's interesting, I have higher oil pressure with the 2087. Noticeable higher. The 2087 flowing more would result in a higher oil pressure. But if you noticed a lower pressure I can't really argue with that

 

[Tonymustang302]

2062 is not good for the pump presures….the plastic insides can create a hourglass and tear the filter apart. Thats why whet switched to the 2087 metal inside lining

 

[JAJ]

So, I posted the below in the GT500 section. It is more applicable here.

The 2018 and below manual supplement spec the 2062. The 2019 and 20 spec 2087.

I don't recall if manual addendums were released calling for all model years to switch to the 2087.

I went to Ford and downloaded the second (final) printing of the manual supplement. It still specs the 2062.

Has there been anything from Ford that supersedes the latest manual supplement and directs the FL-2087 filter for all '17 and above 350's?

I used to use the FL 2062 all the time without issue to include track use.

I don't see the difference between all the model years. It is the same engine. for all practical purposes.

If you go to the dealer's parts counter, they'll sell you an FL2087 for any year GT350 that takes the cartridge filter. From a supply chain standpoint, the FL2062's been "superceded".

My speculation (and it's very pure speculation) is that when they switched from the spin-on filters used at introduction, Ford Performance didn't re-do the full homologation testing that the GT350 went through before it was released in 2015 . That would have included the extreme cold start tests and so on. Keep in mind that the FL2062 is the standard filter for the 2.7 Ecoboost, so the thickest oil it normally sees is 5w30 in an engine with a relatively small oil pump.

The next FP car with a 5.2 that got full homologation testing was the 2020 GT500, and I suspect (with no evidence whatsoever) that the FL2062 flunked one of the homologation tests, probably the arctic cold-start test. The heavy thick oil at -40C and the massive oil pump in the GT500 engine just wadded up the 2062 and stuffed it into the oilways, causing engine failure. So, they invented the 2087 with a steel center core that can handle the high flow and thick oil. To be clear, though, before anyone suggests I don't know what I'm talking about, I can confirm that I don't know what I'm talking about.

 

[ShelbyMike21]

That's interesting, I have higher oil pressure with the 2087. Noticeable higher. The 2087 flowing more would result in a higher oil pressure. But if you noticed a lower pressure I can't really argue with that

interesting...

whats ur oil pressure cold start idle and after it fully warm up idling ?

cold start idle for me is 100+psi ( cant remember exact )

fully warm up idle is maybe like 40psi ? some what around there

from what i remember...i do think im seeing lower oil pressure switching to 2087 from 2062. maybe about 5psi less. I will drive it this weekend to confirm oil pressure.

 

[Tomster]

If you go to the dealer's parts counter, they'll sell you an FL2087 for any year GT350 that takes the cartridge filter. From a supply chain standpoint, the FL2062's been "superceded".

My speculation (and it's very pure speculation) is that when they switched from the spin-on filters used at introduction, Ford Performance didn't re-do the full homologation testing that the GT350 went through before it was released in 2015 . That would have included the extreme cold start tests and so on. Keep in mind that the FL2062 is the standard filter for the 2.7 Ecoboost, so the thickest oil it normally sees is 5w30 in an engine with a relatively small oil pump.

The next FP car with a 5.2 that got full homologation testing was the 2020 GT500, and I suspect (with no evidence whatsoever) that the FL2062 flunked one of the homologation tests, probably the arctic cold-start test. The heavy thick oil at -40C and the massive oil pump in the GT500 engine just wadded up the 2062 and stuffed it into the oilways, causing engine failure. So, they invented the 2087 with a steel center core that can handle the high flow and thick oil. To be clear, though, before anyone suggests I don't know what I'm talking about, I can confirm that I don't know what I'm talking about.

Thank you for that. I have some 2062's laying around that in the past have stood up to track use, ala me.

I get the reinforced filter, but under heavy use, the 2062 has done fine.

I may use up my 2062s as street only filters and be sure to change them out in short order.

 

[s2ms]

That's interesting, I have higher oil pressure with the 2087. Noticeable higher. The 2087 flowing more would result in a higher oil pressure. But if you noticed a lower pressure I can't really argue with that

I noticed the same when switching to the 2087 on my 2nd oil change, as much as a 10-15psi increase all conditions.

 

[ICU812]

Probably all sitting in one of the cargo ships backed up at our coastal ports....I'm in NC and finally found a SC dealer that had 1 in stock last month....crazy

Yup.
Bring back manufacturing here, and well you know.
This is why I always have 4 filters for vehicles I own on a shelf .
Same with oil enough for 2 oil changes .
Now if only all the vehicles used the same oil. but alas .

 

[huskeee]

interesting...

whats ur oil pressure cold start idle and after it fully warm up idling ?

cold start idle for me is 100+psi ( cant remember exact )

fully warm up idle is maybe like 40psi ? some what around there

from what i remember...i do think im seeing lower oil pressure switching to 2087 from 2062. maybe about 5psi less. I will drive it this weekend to confirm oil pressure.

I can't remember exactly but I'll check when I drive it again. Pretty sure I sit at around 70psi at 2000rpm hot. I did notice that the hot idle pressure was similar, about 35psi, but everything was higher than what I had prior. Could have been the oil though, as I switched from motorcraft to amsoil at the same time (mobil 1 now but same pressure as amsoil).

 

[matthewr87]

I can't remember exactly but I'll check when I drive it again. Pretty sure I sit at around 70psi at 2000rpm hot. I did notice that the hot idle pressure was similar, about 35psi, but everything was higher than what I had prior. Could have been the oil though, as I switched from motorcraft to amsoil at the same time (mobil 1 now but same pressure as amsoil).

I switched to the 2087 at my first oil change. I use Motorcraft 5W50. Pressures went up significantly (~20+ PSI) across the board (including warm idle which is around 45 PSI with the 2087). Cold start is around 125 PSI and warm throttle around 100 PSI.

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