Coyote 2121
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Looks like ice are gonna be around a while longer.......
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Yep, I never drank the Kool-aid. Easy to predict this was going to be a Huge, Huge waste of money.Looks like ice are gonna be around a while longer.......
California is a shit holeHate to tell you, but EVs are coming whether you like it or not. It has nothing to do with what hte market wants. Cali has banned ICE starting 2035 for new cars. Several places in the EU have done the same.
California, specifically CARB, has been given defacto authority to dictate emissions. If CARB has gone that way, the rest of the US will follow. And with the EU on the same path, large markets will adjust.
Sorry, but EVs are going to be the future unless some MASSIVE regulatory change happens, and production moves to China/India/etc...you get the idea.
Just to be clear. I dispise EVs. But what the market wants is not what the rules will allow. And the market will blink, just like it did in the late 70s.
Do you think that because something is set in law then it's going to happen?Hate to tell you, but EVs are coming whether you like it or not. It has nothing to do with what hte market wants. Cali has banned ICE starting 2035 for new cars. Several places in the EU have done the same.
California, specifically CARB, has been given defacto authority to dictate emissions. If CARB has gone that way, the rest of the US will follow. And with the EU on the same path, large markets will adjust.
Sorry, but EVs are going to be the future unless some MASSIVE regulatory change happens, and production moves to China/India/etc...you get the idea.
Just to be clear. I dispise EVs. But what the market wants is not what the rules will allow. And the market will blink, just like it did in the late 70s.
It's a Pipe Dream, which is just about to collide with Reality. None of us will live to see the day, when ICE vehicles are gone. It's just not going to happen.Do you think that because something is set in law then it's going to happen?
I'll translate it for you: it's not because you wish something that it's going to happen.
I live in CA and I approve this messageCalifornia is a shit hole
You're definitely a little "aged" when it comes to infrastructure. The power grid isn't using copper wires anymore. Neither are they using steel structures for transmission. They're being replacing with concrete poles. Almost all the wire is aluminum except for the old stuff still out there at the feeder level. You're correct though on where will it come from and them killing the only chance they have to produce enough megawatts to support EV charging. Nuclear. They won't build it though even though it's more green and more efficient than the coal burning plants that produce half of the megawatts a nuclear plant can produce. So with that, they will need more coal burning plants to keep up. With that said it makes no sense the big push on EVs. It's fucking stupid.Strictly talking about recharging stations and the massive infrastructure to support millions of EV vehicles we are already at least a decade behind where we should be. To start with we need to mine more copper for the cables and distribution systems. We need more petroleum for the manufacturing of the insulation of wire and cables, we need to mine more iron ore for the steel production to build the transmission wire towers and we need to have the trained work force to build these infrastructures. So we start building the infrastructures for the charging stations now where is the electricity going to come from? I don't want to get into politics but the present administration is killing the exact industries needed to build and support the infrastructure for EV charging stations. Just my point of view after a 38 year career in electrical construction and design.
Yes. If it is a regulation, it will happen. Ready or not. See 1974-1987 Mustang. That ugly, underpowered bastard of a car was the product of regulations. Along with the Charger, the death of the Roadrunner, and countless other cars in that era.Do you think that because something is set in law then it's going to happen?
I'll translate it for you: it's not because you wish something that it's going to happen.
this isn't directed towards you - your post makes good points but the "greenies" don't see past the blabber of "EV is good, it's all good for the world"...Strictly talking about recharging stations and the massive infrastructure to support millions of EV vehicles we are already at least a decade behind where we should be. To start with we need to mine more copper for the cables and distribution systems. We need more petroleum for the manufacturing of the insulation of wire and cables, we need to mine more iron ore for the steel production to build the transmission wire towers and we need to have the trained work force to build these infrastructures. So we start building the infrastructures for the charging stations now where is the electricity going to come from? I don't want to get into politics but the present administration is killing the exact industries needed to build and support the infrastructure for EV charging stations. Just my point of view after a 38 year career in electrical construction and design.
you mean 98% of EU countries that is...Several places in the EU have done the same
At some point reality will hit the political types and these mandates will be pushed back and or repealed all together. EV's will be around as some will want them. The majority will want straight ICE or hybrids.The big three will likely push mid-level mass market EVs and abandon ridiculous over the top units. Think Hummer EVs etc.