Edelbrock E-Force Troubleshooting Manual

[LS1Coupe]

MIKENGAIL what did the blower belt have to do with your part throttle issues? Was a tensioner or blower causing false knock from the belt being too tight?

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[Torinate]

Belt was too tight. Likely transmitted every vibration through the drivetrain instead of the idler absorbing some of it.

 

[mikengail]

I wish I knew. I talked to a mechanic at my local Ford service department and he said that a tensioner can't be locked all the way in for good street driving manners. The most he said that he loads up a tensioner on the GT500's is 60%. Mine was 100%, no play whatsoever...

 

[allicedout]

Hey everyone, setting up to install my E-Force stage one on my 2021 Mustang GT manual tranmission. I spent some time and read about 20 pages back to see if I could fine some answers to the questions I had. I'm getting mixed answers on fuel.... Now from what I gather I should be fine with the stock injectors and fuel pump providing I'm staying with the Edelbrock tune. As for the tune, it seems a lot of people have had issues with the Edelbrock tune and suggested a third party tune. So I'll try to keep it simple, should I got third party tune over the Edelbrock tune and if so should I add injectors and a BAP as cheap insurance? I'm sure this has been asked somewhere at some point but I have to think Edelbrock has made some changes along the way to fix issues some owners have had, but maybe not. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks

 

[illtal]

Hey everyone, setting up to install my E-Force stage one on my 2021 Mustang GT manual tranmission. I spent some time and read about 20 pages back to see if I could fine some answers to the questions I had. I'm getting mixed answers on fuel.... Now from what I gather I should be fine with the stock injectors and fuel pump providing I'm staying with the Edelbrock tune. As for the tune, it seems a lot of people have had issues with the Edelbrock tune and suggested a third party tune. So I'll try to keep it simple, should I got third party tune over the Edelbrock tune and if so should I add injectors and a BAP as cheap insurance? I'm sure this has been asked somewhere at some point but I have to think Edelbrock has made some changes along the way to fix issues some owners have had, but maybe not. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks

I would buy DW95s and run a bap along with a tune. Most tuners will want you to buy bigger injectors.

At the very least put a bap on the pump. I couldn't recommend the Edelbrock tune with all of the driveability problems I had. I was an early adopter though.

I am taking off my JMS unit pm me if you want it.

 

[illtal]

I would buy DW95s and run a bap along with a tune. Most tuners will want you to buy bigger injectors.

At the very least put a bap on the pump. I couldn't recommend the Edelbrock tune with all of the driveability problems I had. I was an early adopter though.

I am taking off my JMS unit pm me if you want it.

Hmmmms

 

[100mphclub]

Hey everyone, setting up to install my E-Force stage one on my 2021 Mustang GT manual tranmission. I spent some time and read about 20 pages back to see if I could fine some answers to the questions I had. I'm getting mixed answers on fuel.... Now from what I gather I should be fine with the stock injectors and fuel pump providing I'm staying with the Edelbrock tune. As for the tune, it seems a lot of people have had issues with the Edelbrock tune and suggested a third party tune. So I'll try to keep it simple, should I got third party tune over the Edelbrock tune and if so should I add injectors and a BAP as cheap insurance? I'm sure this has been asked somewhere at some point but I have to think Edelbrock has made some changes along the way to fix issues some owners have had, but maybe not. Any help is appreciated.

Thanks

What fuel do you plan to run? How much boost? Everything depends on how far you want it to go.

 

[allicedout]

What fuel do you plan to run? How much boost? Everything depends on how far you want it to go.

Pretty much what the kit puts out, around 620rwhp. I don't have any plans to upgrade right now to a stage 2. I spoke with Lidio at Alternative auto performance in Michigan, he recommends a VMP BAP and 55 to 60lb injectors to tune for 93. He doesn't like working with more then what we need for the power we want to make.. Any thoughts??

 

[illtal]

Pretty much what the kit puts out, around 620rwhp. I don't have any plans to upgrade right now to a stage 2. I spoke with Lidio at Alternative auto performance in Michigan, he recommends a VMP BAP and 55 to 60lb injectors to tune for 93. He doesn't like working with more then what we need for the power we want to make.. Any thoughts??

What is your end goal?

 

[allicedout]

What is your end goal?

A reliable street car, I don't track the car, i'll do the odd highway pull here and there but nothing serious. The car see the garage more then the street, I get like 1500-3000km on it if i'm lucky in a year.

 

[illtal]

A reliable street car, I don't track the car, i'll do the odd highway pull here and there but nothing serious. The car see the garage more then the street, I get like 1500-3000km on it if i'm lucky in a year.

Most reliable setup would be a bap and injectors with a decent aftermarket tune. There are a few injectors to be had, 1000cc is the standard most start with because we all get greedy and want more. They will idle fine and provide plenty of headroom for all but the most hardcore upgrades, like wanting 1000 wheel HP.

But you can use the 2020 GT500 52 lb injectors if you want. I don't think though that they are that much cheaper than a 1000cc injector, I only paid 550 for mine pre pandemic.

 

[Stymee]

Put a BAP/1050x in it, this way u are covered if u wanna run Sunoco 260 and a teeny bit more boost or an additive like Boostane

However if u ever go E85, you’re gonna need a Fore Stage II fuel system but u would be ok using the 1050x’s and would just need to resell the BAP

 

[illtal]

Put a BAP/1050x in it, this way u are covered if u wanna run Sunoco 260 and a teeny bit more boost or an additive like Boostane

However if u ever go E85, you’re gonna need a Fore Stage II fuel system but u would be ok using the 1050x’s and would just need to resell the BAP

260GT has the same Stoich as regular pump gas. It's when you start using fuels with lower stoich values will you begin to tax the system especially at elevated boost pressures.

You can run up to 15 lbs of boost on a 260GT tune, maybe those GT500 injectors can do it I'd ask the tuner though. GT500 injectors are 65lb/hr at 55 psi rail pressure.

 

[Stymee]

260GT has the same Stoich as regular pump gas. It's when you start using fuels with lower stoich values will you begin to tax the system especially at elevated boost pressures.

You can run up to 15 lbs of boost on a 260GT tune, maybe those GT500 injectors can do it I'd ask the tuner though. GT500 injectors are 65lb/hr at 55 psi rail pressure.

I’m well aware of what 260 is…

What I was saying is I’d MUCH RATHER buy 1050x’s now vs a 55lber so I already have them and wont need to buy injectors twice?

Now like u said u could POSS get away with 15lbs, a BAP & 1050x’s on 260GT but again thats YOUR decision. For sure 13lbs would be pretty safe but I don't know if I’d push it any farther as we’ve seen pressure drop once pushing this type of combo in many setups

Hell Flores ran 260GT with a similar setup and saw pressure drop at higher boost on his Centri, not me I wouldn't risk it and neither is he

Truthfully if it were me, BAP/1050x GOOD fuel (260GT) 13lbs….

Anything more, Fore Stage II would replace the BAP/Stock Pump

If u are happy with 630RW, I’d still run at least a BAP with the kits injectors supplied but thats me…

 

[illtal]

that's what I was getting at, 1000 cc will get him close to 1000 on e-85 so I wouldn't waste time on a smaller one especially when the car will run fine with them.

At this point though with the money involved with those 1050x injectors I would get something even bigger, IF I knew for a fact I was going on for more power later on down the line.

I just checked a few stores and almost ALL of the 1000 cc injectors are retailing for 700+ the ID1050x are 1100+ in most stores holy hell! at this rate the FIC 1440 seems to be a steal, I just bought a set for ~1200 plus tax.

Shit man... this inflation is killing me.

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