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• Pull and hold both the right paddle (+) and the left paddle (-) for a temporary neutral position. Neutral (N) remains until you release both paddles.
Sweet! Now I can rev my engine at the sweeties!
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Sweet! Now I can rev my engine at the sweeties!
In Auto mode
Pull and hold both the right paddle (+) and the left paddle (-) to temporarily open the clutches. The transmission remains in neutral (N) until you release both paddles, or 30 minutes pass.
 
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Your right, and the idiots are evolving faster than the technology.
 
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And just as you wouldn't let the clutch out at a much higher RPM than the upcoming gear would call for, the same is true with the paddles. If you release them too soon, be sure you're not parked in a tight spot or brace yourself for a rapid deceleration. <grin>

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If you release them too soon, be sure you're not parked in a tight spot or brace yourself for a rapid deceleration. <grin>
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If you think about it they (Ford) had to design it to be mostly idiot proof. I bet you'd have a hard time breaking the auto trans shifting it manually whatever which way.

My biggest problem with manual shift is forgetting to downshift at a stop. It's super hard to do a hole shot from the light in 4th gear. Chugga-chugga!
I don't dispute the trans tune would be better than I would, I was just asking about the protections. I will let the trans "school me" on the shift pattern/sequences on a lap or two and for the sake of engagement, I may want to manage my own shifts. It would be interesting to see which was faster and by how much.

In the 350R at any particular track, the gears, and when you shift them is pretty routine. I suspect the 500 will probably be the same.
they already answered, but yes, it will downshift on its on to avoid stalling
Interesting, so you are driving in manual mode. Your foot has the accelerator pinned to the floor. You forget to shift to third gear..... did the transmission automatically select the next higher gear when it hit the RPM limit, or was there a fuel cutoff preventing further engine RPM?
It will not shift up, and if you wrap it on the limiter too long, it will wrench


OK.... So.....

In manual (assuming independent of mode (sport, track, etc) :
  • you can't money shift the car.
  • you cannot exceed redline if you forget to shift, but its on you to select the next gear.
  • The logic will downshift to protect against lugging the engine.
That was painful, lol
Good to know, all is appreciated.
Basically yes
The instrument cluster displays your currently selected gear. If you request a gear but it is not available due to vehicle conditions, the current gear flashes three times.
correct. the first few times i saw this, i was concerned

@Tomster id be very very interested in your feedback of auto vs m shift points/logic on the track. I dont road course, but im interested to see just how well the logic works for racing, ie, does it whift when/where you would want it to
 

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I hate to bother the guy, but @BillyJRacing would know the answer to this.

In track mode (or sport mode for that matter), while driving in manual mode, will the transmission logic protect you from exceeding a limitation (red line)? In other words, can you money shift a GT500 while operating in manual mode?

The manual doesn't specifically say and I can't find any reference.

Thanks
Quick answer - NO you cannot money-shift a GT500 in manual mode.

The trans has a lot of failsafes built into it and will not cause damage if you request a downshift too early (that would cause it to over-rev if it actually shifted when you told it to do so). In this case, the transmission will simply deny the downshift until you request a downshift that it can execute.

If you're breaking from 6th gear down to a 2nd gear corner, and you grab the left paddle 10X, it will only execute as many shifts as possible when the commands are given.

Said another way: Let's say you're at redline in 6th gear and full throttle. You cannot downshift without over revving the engine (because you're at redline). You can grab the downshift paddle as many times as you want. It will just deny each command until you slow down enough where it can go into 5th gear and not be above redline. -and so on.

Auto Downshifting in Manual mode - if you're in manual mode and forget to downshift, and if the RPMs drop to a point that would bog the engine, cause problems or damage, it will automatically downshift. These downshifts are far from 'ideal' and are actually 'forced' by your lack of attention and proper commands. Don't think of this as the car automatically downshifting for you, but rather, further preventing problems that you're causing.

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Sweet! Now I can rev my engine at the sweeties!
That only applies to the DCT in the 2020 GT500!!
It does NOT work if you are driving a 10r80 or 6r80 trans. There is no open clutch position with the paddles on an automatic. If that's what you're driving (judging by the 2020 GT/CS you have listed) your only option to "rev at the sweeties" is to pop the shift lever into nuetral!
 
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Sorry to be the guy to resurrect an almost 2 year old thread…but this was by far the most relevant search result to what happened to me.

Yesterday on the way home from work, I was in manual mode. I took a phone call, and while on the phone, hit an on ramp to merge with traffic. Forgetting I was in manual mode, I hit the top of 2nd, and was met with immediate loss of power, realizing I hit the rev limiter.

I wasn’t looking at the tach when it happened, but if I’m understanding the info in this thread, I did not exceed the redline @ 7500rpm, correct?
 
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Sorry to be the guy to resurrect an almost 2 year old thread…but this was by far the most relevant search result to what happened to me.

Yesterday on the way home from work, I was in manual mode. I took a phone call, and while on the phone, hit an on ramp to merge with traffic. Forgetting I was in manual mode, I hit the top of 2nd, and was met with immediate loss of power, realizing I hit the rev limiter.

I wasn’t looking at the tach when it happened, but if I’m understanding the info in this thread, I did not exceed the redline @ 7500rpm, correct?
you are fine. as a rule of thumb, if i am going to be occupied, i leave it in automatic mode.
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