Covid Shots

[m3incorp]

Considering that everyone always has their cell phones nearby.......we all have that chip already.

If I was in the FBI or CIA like you I would not take the vaccine either. There might be a tracking chip in it. You never know right?

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[Adamone92]

Considering that everyone always has their cell phones nearby.......we all have that chip already.

100% let alone car apps like onstar..AAA..etc

 

[fastergt350]

i agree...i look at it this way.

in my quick logic there are two options..

either:

A) Its real, and not some huge hidden agenda behind COVID. Meaning the ~400,000 more deaths in 2020 vs the past 4 years were related to COVID...(which to me is the much more logical answer). 400k more deaths out of nowhere coincidentally during a worldwide pandemic? not hard to connect the dots there

or B) Its a huge conspiracy and the government is out to get to get us for $$ and population control. They also got hospitals to lie about their reports of COVID related deaths and chalk up every random death to being COVID.

B doesnt make any sense to me, even from a wild stretch of the imagination. I believe it MAY be closer to a middle ground, where some of the deaths were falsely reported, but saying such a large portion of them are fake is almost insulting to the families who lost their loved ones.

maybe im just being naive. who knows. I just dont try to claim to know more than the experts on these matters

You are not naïve, you Hit the Nail on the Head. Thank You.

 

[RPDBlueMoon]

Look at how many people have died from the flu and pneumonia before COVID? Now look at those same number this last year way down? What happen did those people just get healed? Lots of people already had problems that would kill them in do time COVID just speed it up BUT wasn’t what killed them! Without the other problems that they already had their body would have been able to fight it off.

Looking at number of people who died from pneumonia: 2019 Deaths - 43,881 https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/pneumonia.htm

Look at number of people who died from pneumonia last year: 2020 Deaths - 172,874
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

Where are you getting that the numbers are "way down" it is the opposite

 

[RPDBlueMoon]

i agree...i look at it this way.

in my quick logic there are two options..

either:

A) Its real, and not some huge hidden agenda behind COVID. Meaning the ~400,000 more deaths in 2020 vs the past 4 years were related to COVID...(which to me is the much more logical answer). 400k more deaths out of nowhere coincidentally during a worldwide pandemic? not hard to connect the dots there

or B) Its a huge conspiracy and the government is out to get to get us for $$ and population control. They also got hospitals to lie about their reports of COVID related deaths and chalk up every random death to being COVID.

B doesnt make any sense to me, even from a wild stretch of the imagination. I believe it MAY be closer to a middle ground, where some of the deaths were falsely reported, but saying such a large portion of them are fake is almost insulting to the families who lost their loved ones.

maybe im just being naive. who knows. I just dont try to claim to know more than the experts on these matters

Even if some of the numbers were falsely reported I still don't understand the controversy. When you have hospitals overflowing and people dying every minute, you don't have the time to do a full autopsy and asses what it is going on. You move on from one patient to the next, just like how it is when there is a mass causality event.

You just tick off that they died from COVID, get rid of the body and move on to the next person. The situation just burdens the whole system because people that need healthcare unrelated to COVID get tossed to the side. Nobody had the time to push papers and account for every single death, that is the whole point of a pandemic. Shit gets crazy

 

[RPDBlueMoon]

Considering that everyone always has their cell phones nearby.......we all have that chip already.

100% let alone car apps like onstar..AAA..etc

Not only that people openly share information about themselves on social media lol

 

[shogun32]

it's only effective when everybody else gets it.

herd immunity is achieved when enough people (depends on R) are naturally immune, been exposed and recovered (acquired immune) or "vaccinated". If we start passing out Polio everywhere a chunk of people are going to get it. But since we have herd immunity it won't lead to a pandemic - it can't spread effectively. The problem with Polio is there is no cure - all they have are "make you comfortable and hope for the best". With Wuhan we not only have prophylactics, we have had cures since March of '19 and arguably earlier than that.

 

[shogun32]

When you have hospitals overflowing and people dying every minute

This did not happen except in some exceptionally badly run hospitals - Italy for instance. NY had no such emergency. They didn't use any of the extra beds provided for them.

that is the whole point of a pandemic. Shit gets crazy

only when you play politics with medicine and threaten doctors with license revocation or jail for using CHEAP and PLENTIFUL and KNOWN SAFE drugs to combat it and restore health. There was absolutely zero cause for anyone to have died from this thing past February. This was not a pandemic, it was a scam-demic with nearly every death deserving of a multi-million dollar award for deliberate medical malpractice.

 

[RPDBlueMoon]

With Wuhan we not only have prophylactics, we have had cures since March of '19 and arguably earlier than that.

Oh right, I forgot about those "cures"? What was it?? Hydroxychloroquine??? Or do you mean injecting disinfectant inside your body?

You cannot cure a viral infection. You can only cure medical conditions. There are very few viral infections that have "cures" and it's not a cure because the virus still lingers inside the body, it can only be treated and its affects on the body lessened.

Also a vaccine is a type of prophylactic, please continue to try to use medicinal terminology to make yourself sound smart.

Continue to move the goal post. First it was about the death reporting and you lost that, now you are talking about "cures" we never had lol

 

[OnThree]

One of the Main reasons that the Flu isn't so prevalent this year is people are masking up which slows the spread, and that is a fact.

Lol if you really believe that

 

[fastergt350]

Lol if you really believe that

Would you like to explain it to me then.

 

[K4fxd]

The virus is smaller than what the mask can capture.

I see about 99.9% mask compliance but we still are having record numbers of Covid cases, so that tells me the mask doesn't work.

 

[OnThree]

Would you like to explain it to me then.

Pretty simple, only the n95 masks does anything. Cloth mask is wishful thinking especially when half the people wearing them don't even put them over their nose.

Flu cases are down because every death is being classified as COVID even if that wasn't the contributing factor in that person's death.

And that's not even mentioning the wildly inaccurate test results for COVID.

 

[fastergt350]

The virus is smaller than what the mask can capture.

I see about 99.9% mask compliance but we still are having record numbers of Covid cases, so that tells me the mask doesn't work.

Lets not forget that record amounts of people were not going to be told that you can't visit over the holidays. We saw the numbers jump big time in Upstate NY because "you can't tell me what to do." And look where it got them.

 

[OnThree]

Lets not forget that record amounts of people were not going to be told that you can't visit over the holidays. We saw the numbers jump big time in Upstate NY because "you can't tell me what to do." And look where it got them.

And how do you know they weren't wearing masks and social distancing while visiting with their families?

When you abandon freedom to achieve security, you lose both and deserve neither. - Thomas Jefferson

You might be fine with losing your rights but I sure as hell am not. COVID be damned

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