COVID-19 Question.....................

[lateinthegame]

Interesting, @lateinthegame and I'd bet money that you're guess is correct.

If you think about it, how many people do you know that had the seasonal flu, recovered, and re-contracted it again soon thereafter? I don't know a soul.

I have never known anyone to get the flu twice in a row.

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[lateinthegame]

Interesting, @lateinthegame and I'd bet money that you're guess is correct.

If you think about it, how many people do you know that had the seasonal flu, recovered, and re-contracted it again soon thereafter? I don't know a soul.

Most viruses, that are "curable", when you get an immunity it will only last for so many years and then your body quits making them.

 

[rick81721]

Most viruses, that are "curable", when you get an immunity it will only last for so many years and then your body quits making them.

With most viral diseases, the vaccine lasts a long time - measles, mumps, rubella, chickenpox, polio, etc. Flu is different because there are multiple viruses which are constantly mutating.

 

[Caballus]

To the degree that we can compare it to the flue, it seems that it will depend on how much the virus continues to mutate. Fairly reliable source.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/can-you-get-the-flu-twice-in-1-season/

"But if you already caught the flu, are you in the clear for the rest of the season? Unfortunately, no. Experts say it is possible to catch the flu twice in one season. That's because there are multiple strains of flu viruses circulating at any one time, said Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious-disease specialist at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville. So getting sick with one strain of flu won't necessarily protect you from a different strain.

But the good news is that it's pretty rare to catch the flu twice in a single season. Having this happen would be "quite a stroke of bad luck," Schaffner told Live Science."

 

[Droopy1592]

You seem misinformed about what is really going on with testing. You are ignoring how many people have been cured using the malaria drug and the antibiotic cocktail. But if you would read you would know that once the disease has gone too far that it does no good. There are also dosage level testing. Level 3 was stopped because it gave the patients heart problems. Lower levels testing are still going on and curing people. The FDA is political and is slow to react and people in other countries are getting cured all over the place. Why do you think people go to Europe to get cured for a lot of things?

You have to think about the malaria drug and antibiotic cocktail as a parachute. You have to pull it soon enough or it does no good.

You should really read more.

Most of those early studies are not RCT or don’t have controls. Some of the claims being made about the combo curing have no control data. Can you assume the combo cured you because you recovered? You can’t create a conclusion that’s worth its salt without some sort of control. The ones that do have controls show no significant improvement or very minor with small sample sizes and exclude data that should have been included (like one patient dying in the plaquenil group or patients being removed after side effects noted). Even the French study that showed improvement was conducted buy a researcher that’s been banned from some journals from falsifying data. Yes I know he has a lot of work on his CV but this is the same guy that thinks climate change is a hoax and Darwinism is unsupported by science. The peer review process was also less than 24 hours on this study. That is insane. Many studies in other countries have actually abandoned the study part way through because of side effects and fatalities. The virus can affect heart conduction so do you really want to take a drug that will compound that affect with possibly fatal arrhythmias? This is also with the low to normal dosing. The Chinese study had an extremely small sample size and the one day improvement wasn’t worth the side effects. I’m eagerly awaiting the couple of state studies that have larger sample sizes. As someone that reads studies regularly you have to be careful who is conducting the study, the data and conclusions, and the people sponsoring the study. Questionnaires do not constitute proof of concept. You should really read more.

 

[Droopy1592]

To the degree that we can compare it to the flue, it seems that it will depend on how much the virus continues to mutate. Fairly reliable source.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/can-you-get-the-flu-twice-in-1-season/

"But if you already caught the flu, are you in the clear for the rest of the season? Unfortunately, no. Experts say it is possible to catch the flu twice in one season. That's because there are multiple strains of flu viruses circulating at any one time, said Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious-disease specialist at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville. So getting sick with one strain of flu won't necessarily protect you from a different strain.

But the good news is that it's pretty rare to catch the flu twice in a single season. Having this happen would be "quite a stroke of bad luck," Schaffner told Live Science."

There are generally 50-100+ strains of flu every year and the vac typically includes the 6-15 strains PREDICTED to be the most common. This is why you can definitely get it more than once or catch it after being vaccinated. Hell, we could be vaccinated for Covid and a strain with enough mutations may not give a damn.

 

[lateinthegame]

There are generally 50-100+ strains of flu every year and the vac typically includes the 6-15 strains PREDICTED to be the most common. This is why you can definitely get it more than once or catch it after being vaccinated. Hell, we could be vaccinated for Covid and a strain with enough mutations may not give a damn.

I know. You never know which strain you have....

 

[kilobravo]

Yep, ultimately, a viable vaccine is the answer to this problem but I belive @lateinthegame is correct about the antibodies decreasing over time without a vaccine.

However, the immunity should last long enough for a vaccine to come to market and that would be lone enough to get things moving again.

Now, I ain't saying I WANT to contract the disease but for those who have, and survive, they can be pretty sure they won't get it again and that means they won't be contagious and can work safely.

 

[kilobravo]

@lateinthegame now...don't "strain" yourself posting strainers. <chuckling>

 

[Caballus]

There are generally 50-100+ strains of flu every year and the vac typically includes the 6-15 strains PREDICTED to be the most common. This is why you can definitely get it more than once or catch it after being vaccinated. Hell, we could be vaccinated for Covid and a strain with enough mutations may not give a damn.

That was my point.

 

[lateinthegame]

Yep, ultimately, a viable vaccine is the answer to this problem but I belive @lateinthegame is correct about the antibodies decreasing over time without a vaccine.

However, the immunity should last long enough for a vaccine to come to market and that would be lone enough to get things moving again.

Now, I ain't saying I WANT to contract the disease but for those who have, and survive, they can be pretty sure they won't get it again and that means they won't be contagious and can work safely.

If I caught it, I would hope it would not be bad. But I would be the first one to give plasma to help someone. That solution is proven as a general rule, but the jury is still out on this virus. I am hoping it works. I have a friend in New York that was close to death and has had it for 3 weeks and is better but still 103 temp.

 

[lateinthegame]

I love it when they show their spirit of "social distancing". It keeps the curve flatter.

 

[kilobravo]

Great shades.. :-)

 

[lateinthegame]

Great shades.. :-)

I must admit that the picture makes me want to "pull at that string"

 

[kilobravo]

Now THAT was FUNNY!

Meanwhile...

I sure hope the US and the rest of the world nail the WHO for at the very least, ineptitude. Crisis such as these bring out a lot of issues we wouldn't normally notice. This is a glaring example...

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