CHECK YOUR OIL!!!!

[mustang1]

Funny you mention this, as in the BMW world, many want a dipstick due to the temperamental nature of the oil level sensor.

I have no problems checking a dipstick to top off and keep the car track-ready, but presumably the low oil level warning sensor on these cars should work to the extent that being down 4 quarts needs to have some type of warning. Why is there a low oil warning light to begin with?

If this is a problem, seems like an easy fix for Ford in this day and age. Not doing so is nothing short of corporate incompetence.

I checked fordparts.com, and there is an oil level sensor on the 5.0. I don't know how it works. How low does the oil get before it toggles a warning?

They don't have a listing for the 5.2. GT350 should have an oil pressure sensor as well.

Catalog Results / 2016 Ford Mustang 5.0L - 8Cyl, RWD
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Engine Oil Level Sensor
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[MustangGT350]

how could such a high performance engine on a car that has every other conceivable gauge that you can monitor on the dash, but no low oil level warning light? Just makes ZERO sense.

 

[mustang1]

I assume it has one. That website may not have everything and I haven't looked for others. Maybe someone can look at their car. But there is a few threads on here with their engines getting very low on oil. Which begs the question. Will an oil level low, or oil pressure low, warning light toggle before there is risk of engine damage.

 

[GTthree50]

how could such a high performance engine on a car that has every other conceivable gauge that you can monitor on the dash, but no low oil level warning light? Just makes ZERO sense.

Agreed, thinking this the other day. Not just a light but there should be an oil quantity gauge. Had ones on the two Porsche's I owned prior to getting the Shelby. Very nice to have.

 

[Mspeedster]

how could such a high performance engine on a car that has every other conceivable gauge that you can monitor on the dash, but no low oil level warning light? Just makes ZERO sense.

No joke! :doh:

Does the normal S550 Mustang have one?

 

[rb92gt]

Oil Pressure

Agreed absurd no low oil level warning. That would be far more important than a useless oil pressure gauge. If you ever notice low oil pressure even for seconds under load, it is far too late, engine is toast. Maybe even a limp mode for low oil pressure, lol.

 

[FogcitySF]

Page 50 of the GT350 manual indicates the car is equipped with an "Intelligent Oil Life Monitor"

"Your vehicle is equipped with an Intelligent Oil-Life Monitor that determines when you should change the engine oil based on how your vehicle is used. By using several important factors in its calculations, the monitor helps reduce the cost of owning your vehicle and reduces environmental waste at the same time.

This means you do not have to remember to change the oil on a mileage-based schedule. Your vehicle lets you know when an oil change is due by displaying a message in the information display."

I don't think there is no oil level sensor (remember someone mentioning that an low error code showed up after blown engine)--oil level would seem to be a pre-requisite for any type of "intelligent" oil monitoring system; if what owners are saying is true, that they can be down several quarts of oil and have no way of knowing other than checking the dipstick every few hundred miles, this means that the oil level sensor/"intelligent oil monitoring" is faulty or completely inadequate.

Whatever the case may be, this is 100% unacceptable for a car of this caliber, let alone for even an econobox in this day and age.

 

[KiLLeR2001]

Man it would have been so nice to have a digital oil consumption gauge along with a calculated formula telling you based on your current driving patterns what your average rate of consumption is per X amount of miles.

 

[mustang1]

Intelligent Oil-Life Monitor probably just keeps track of of time, miles, and some basic OBD2 data to tell when its time to change the oil. I doubt its monitoring an oil level sensor.

 

[FogcitySF]

The fact that a code is thrown for low engine oil (concurrent with some failures) there is an oil level sensor.

Also logically having a sophisticated an oil life monitor without an oil level sensor makes no sense.

It's there, but if what people are saying is true, then the oil level sensor is not working or is inadequate.

Intelligent Oil-Life Monitor probably just keeps track of of time, miles, and some basic OBD2 data to tell when its time to change the oil. I doubt its monitoring an oil level sensor.

 

[mustang1]

which code are you referring to? OP created this thread because he got surprised that his engine oil was down more than 50%

It may have an oil level sensor that is malfunctioning. I found this with a google search:

Ford Coyote Engines: How to Build Max Performance

"The oil level sensor is in the oil pan. Continuity via oil level determines whether or not you get a low oil level warning. These oil level sensors tend to leak regardless of what you do with them. They are vulnerable to temperature and vibration extremes.

For the GT350, you would have to do some google searching for a part #, or else put the car on a lift to see if there is an oil level sensor.

 

[Stage_3]

This is a professionals car , not for the posers and hard parkers... they make that clear when you have little or no torque to even out gun minivans at a typical American stop light to stop light , but can expect a point by from every Porsche gt_number car and their rich amateur drivers all day long at a typical track day...

EL O EL

 

[rb92gt]

Page 50 of the GT350 manual indicates the car is equipped with an "Intelligent Oil Life Monitor"

"Your vehicle is equipped with an Intelligent Oil-Life Monitor that determines when you should change the engine oil based on how your vehicle is used. By using several important factors in its calculations, the monitor helps reduce the cost of owning your vehicle and reduces environmental waste at the same time.

This means you do not have to remember to change the oil on a mileage-based schedule. Your vehicle lets you know when an oil change is due by displaying a message in the information display."

I don't think there is no oil level sensor (remember someone mentioning that an low error code showed up after blown engine)--oil level would seem to be a pre-requisite for any type of "intelligent" oil monitoring system; if what owners are saying is true, that they can be down several quarts of oil and have no way of knowing other than checking the dipstick every few hundred miles, this means that the oil level sensor/"intelligent oil monitoring" is faulty or completely inadequate.

Whatever the case may be, this is 100% unacceptable for a car of this caliber, let alone for even an econobox in this day and age.

There is NO oil level sensor. What you are quoting just determines approx time to change the oil. Not related to oil level in any way.

 

[FogcitySF]

I don't know the code number other than that on blown engines, the dealers, in checking the codes, have seen a low oil level code on some of these. If there is a low oil condition that the ECU can detect, then there must be some sort of sensor. Perhaps what throws off the code is an oil pressure or flow sensor? If so, that's a big design flaw and glaring omission for a car of this caliber. If quarts of oil can burn off with no warning, and this is the cause of engines blowing, Ford really brought this on to themselves and should cover all claims and design/retrofit a proper sensor or better harness the info that the ECU is using.

which code are you referring to? OP created this thread because he got surprised that his engine oil was down more than 50%

It may have an oil level sensor that is malfunctioning. I found this with a google search:

Ford Coyote Engines: How to Build Max Performance

"The oil level sensor is in the oil pan. Continuity via oil level determines whether or not you get a low oil level warning. These oil level sensors tend to leak regardless of what you do with them. They are vulnerable to temperature and vibration extremes.

For the GT350, you would have to do some google searching for a part #, or else put the car on a lift to see if there is an oil level sensor.

 

[rb92gt]

I don't know the code number other than that on blown engines, the dealers, in checking the codes, have seen a low oil level code on some of these. If there is a low oil condition that the ECU can detect, then there must be some sort of sensor. Perhaps what throws off the code is an oil pressure or flow sensor? If so, that's a big design flaw and glaring omission for a car of this caliber. If quarts of oil can burn off with no warning, and this is the cause of engines blowing, Ford really brought this on to themselves and should cover all claims and design/retrofit a proper sensor or better harness the info that the ECU is using.

Got it. I see what you are saying and agree there may be an error code found if someone uses a code scanner, but there is no idiot light or anything else for that matter to alert a driver the condition of low oil level exists.

I think if your dipstick shows no oil on it, an oil change is warranted because lots of people seem to just pour multiple quarts of oil in until they see it on the dipstick and may be over filling it. If you drain all oil and refill you can be sure 10 quarts are in her.

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