Body panel alignment issues

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[klumpikat]

Gary, I have been following your posts and many others. I think I am even older than you at 70 ! I too have had many Mustangs, first one was a new 1965 when going to Penn State. I also have a 2014 loaded GT Premium that I am trading on a 2015 with Blend date of 2/17. Not sure how smart this is, I believe it is my 7th Mid Life crisis. Hope that the 2015 doesn't have the fitment issues. Good luck to you all others anticipating their new deliveries!!

Only 70? ;)
My father-in-law will be 80 this year. He was seriously looking into buying an Ecoboost, but changed his mind and decided to continue having his mechanic restore his '65 Fastback. I am hoping he will drive his to the local car meets with me this Spring, but he wants to tweak it a bit further first. I took him to a recent "Cars & Coffee" in Carlsbad and I think it got him motivated

(Sorry...back to body panel topic already in progress...)

 

[klumpikat]

I just heard from my CSR with an update. My car is at the dealership collision center to have the wheels that were scratched in transit fixed and a Ford engineer came to look at my car while it's there. The engineer requested that the collision center manager take measurements of my car. I'm supposed to be picking her up on Friday late afternoon and the CSR will follow up with me again after the engineer receives the information from the collision center and decides what the next step is. At this point I am being patient. The CSR has been in contact with me every other day so I know that Ford is doing something about it. I'm wondering if the reason for the current stop in production has something to do with all of our issues being reported. I'm hoping that they will address the QC issues and issue a fix. I hope that future builds do not have the same issues. I will continue to post updates as I receive them.

I'm looking for articles about production having stopped temporarily due to these problems being reported but came up with nothing. Is this what your case manager told you? Just curious...

 

[PonyGrrrl]

I'm looking for articles about production having stopped temporarily due to these problems being reported but came up with nothing. Is this what your case manager told you? Just curious...

I said that I wonder if that's the reason for the delays, no one from Ford told me anything about the delays.

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[PonyGrrrl]

I said that I wonder if that's the reason for the delays, no one from Ford told me anything about the delays.

There's posts about a stop of some kind in these forums.

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[klumpikat]

Sorry I meant to edit my previous post not quite it.

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Thank you, I'll look for those. ;)
Best of luck to you.

 

[mustang#16]

I started to post a comment to this thread sharing with the forum that my passenger door was rubbing against the edge of my fender. It caught
my attention when I opened my passenger door earlier today and heard a squeaking sound, like something hard rubbing against
rubber. Initially, it looked as though the top edge of my passenger door was rubbing against the fender when opening it.
But, after further inspection, I could see that it's actually rubbing against some foam rubber insulation inside the fender.

The gap between the passenger door and fender is noticeably smaller than the gap between the driver's side door and fender. The driver's
side door does not scrape against the foam insulation inside the fender. See photos below:

Photo #1 - Passenger door completely shut.
Photo #2 - Another view of the passenger door completely shut.
Photo #3 - View of passenger door open, showing how close the door edge is to the fender.
Photo #4 - Another view of the passenger door open, showing how close the top of the door edge is to the fender.
Photo #5 - Another view of the passenger door open less wide, showing how close the lower door edge is to the fender.
Photo #6 - View of the passenger door edge rubbing against the foam insulation inside the fender. You can see the scuff
marks on the foam insulation.

I think I was "lucky" in that, had the gap between the passenger door and front fender been any closer, it would be
knocking paint off the edges. I'm not sure if it's worth the effort to attempt a panel alignment to widen the gap to
prevent the door edge from rubbing against the foam insulation in the fender.

I knew that there would be first-year issues with the new Mustangs but, with such obvious signs of misalignment, I think
Ford needs to review their Quality Control process. Easily-spotted things like this should never leave the factory
in my opinion.

Lastly, a comment about photos showing panel misalignment. If you look at the top of the door and fender in photo #1,
you'd think the vertical alignment was way off. But, if you look at photo #2, the vertical alignment is fine. Point
is, be careful when looking at photos of panels. The 2015 Mustang has more curves, angles, lines, creases than any car
I've ever seen and it's very hard to photograph accurately.

 

[unintelligible]

I think the EB I rented had the same problem, there was a rubbing/squeaking noise coming from the passenger side door when opening, but it wasn't metal to metal rubbing.

Also is the bubbling in photo # 4 just water or is that paint bubbling? If the latter, ugh.

 

[JWS]

Decided to not post photos for a while, but just comment. Worked some more on the trunk and tail lights. Will have to shim the lights to make them match the trunk and trunk panel. Will also have to shim the trunk panel. Did some visual mods that, from a couple feet back, makes it look almost perfect. This is only a temporary fix. May eventually end up welding tabs to the trunk lid and repainting or maybe hide everything with trim.

It's more than just loosening and tightening bolts. The trunk lid was sticking up on the left side near the window because the left rear quarter panel is welded improperly or stamped in a bad die. This causes the slope of the left rear sail panel to be different than the trunk lid. It also causes the window rear mounting to droop on the left side, but mostly at the roof line. This may also account for the driver's door gaps to be larger than the passenger side, which may also be causing the left front fender to buckle (slight bulge) above the left headlight housing, and also cause the big gap between the hood and bumper on the left side. The left door has the biggest gap near the rocker.

The left side of the car is definitely where all the problems start. They were in the preproduction cars and were never addressed before volume production began. Bad parts, dies, weld jigs? Hopefully they will spend the money to fix these issues before 2016 production starts, because even the GT350 has them.

 

[mustang#16]

Also is the bubbling in photo # 4 just water or is that paint bubbling? If the latter, ugh.

Ahhh. I hadn't noticed the bubbling but that is water. It was raining lightly and I had just returned from driving the car.

 

[Noble-6]

Has anyone else here had these alignment issues:

Hood - I have the dreaded gap between the left fender/hood above the headlight although I could live it with it. However across the front edge of the hood, it is wider on right side of the car and gradually gets narrower moving to the left side. It's pretty noticable if you step right up to it as the weather strip pokes through a bit.

Trunk - Edge of trunk sticks out slightly more on the left side near the taillight. Also have a ton of trouble closing it. I have to slam it 3-4 times before it actually latches.

Probably going to call my dealer this week...

 

[domingos35]

I am sorry ford ,but your QC sucks big time

 

[Sixth]

mine is really close to post 101...luckily i havent driven the car much with a passenger so my paint is fine for now. my driver's door clears fine. looks like the door sits back a few mm from the closed position. I am thinking i just need to move the door out a few mm. will probably try it tomorrow and see what happens.

 

[87rigger]

I found another issue with my car, the trunk alignment problem, a larger gap on one side and its rubbing the paint off.

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