BBQ Tick After Oil Change...

[Macek]

Hello Everyone, I'm here from Poland, I have a Mustang 2017 gt manual. The engine tapping only on warm from 1200 rpm to 2300 rpm. After warming up and driving, it sometimes disappears and then again. Symptoms began after 2000 Miles will never exchange carbon. This is a typical tipic tic tic. The car has power and is normal except for tic.

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[NoVaGT]

FWIW, my tick that started with a Royal Purple oil change has gone away after a few thousand miles.

I think I'll use Mobil 1 from now on.

Update;

The oil was changed yesterday, with Amazon.com's synthetic 5W-30, and there's no 2K RPM tick.

The Amazon oil is SPN+ rated, and tests better than Mobil1 for about 1/2 the price. I also used a K&N oil filter.

The engine burned no oil in getting down to 17% on the OLM, and the old oil looked pretty clean when draining out.

 

[Mrmarkmac]

At 2300 miles and factory oil, my tick seems to becoming quieter, and not on every start.

Tonight I started and let idle next to brick wall. After 5 min, not a tick.

Shut car off and immediately started, and bam, tick tick tick.
Shut car off, start immediately, tick tick.
Shut car off , star immediately, NO tick.
Shut car off, start immediately NO tick
Shut car off, start immediately and tick tick tick.

I did this a number of times and it was hit or miss. Sometimes tick, sometimes no tick. Each time I allowed the engine to drop to lower idle, and AC was never on. It was like sometimes whatever is ticking is in phase, and other starts it’s not. Once car was up to full temp, tick was completely gone like usual.

I’m baffled how it’s obviously connected to oil, yet from one start to the next it can come and go? Like the oil flow, pressure or something falls in or out of phase from one ignition to the next.

 

[GT Pony]

At 2300 miles and factory oil, my tick seems to becoming quieter, and not on every star.

Tonight I started and let idle next to brick wall. After 5 min, not a tick.

Shut car off and immediately started, and bam, tick tick tick.
Shut car off, start immediately, tick tick.
Shut car off , star immediately, NO tick.
Shut car off, start immediately NO tick
Shut car off, start immediately and tick tick tick.

I did this a number of times and it was hit or miss. Sometimes tick, sometimes no tick. Each time I allowed the engine to drop to lower idle, and AC was never on. It was like sometimes whatever is ticking is in phase, and other starts it’s not. Once car was up to full temp, tick was completely gone like usual.

I’m baffled how it’s obviously connected to oil, yet from one start to the next it can come and go? Like the oil flow, pressure or something falls in or out of phase from one ignition to the next.

The 2018+ Coyote has an electronically controled variable output oil pump. I wonder if that has any bearing on what you were seeing.

If you drive the car to full operating temperature and did the same start/off cycles.test, would it still tick simetimes but not others?

 

[Mrmarkmac]

I will give it a try when the rains stop. Just weird that it was so definitively there, not there, and then back again.

I suspect I won’t be able to get it to tick as I’ve never heard it when up to full temp.

 

[NoVaGT]

The 2018+ Coyote has an electronically controled variable output oil pump. I wonder if that has any bearing on what you were seeing.

If you drive the car to full operating temperature and did the same start/off cycles.test, would it still tick simetimes but not others?

A member here who is a tech, said that some ticking is due to something about an oil pump.

I don't know if the 2015-2017 GEN2 Coyotes also use the same oil pump.

 

[Dfeeds]

A member here who is a tech, said that some ticking is due to something about an oil pump.

I don't know if the 2015-2017 GEN2 Coyotes also use the same oil pump.

They do not. The 2018/2019 have a bypass solenoid that flips on to reduce oil pressure at idle and low rpms for fuel economy. This doesn't immediately flip on upon startup.

And anyways, I had the bbq for about 500 or 600 miles and now it's gone. Been gone. 5w30 pennzoil plat. I'll take it.

 

[Mrmarkmac]

They do not. The 2018/2019 have a bypass solenoid that flips on to reduce oil pressure at idle and low rpms for fuel economy. This doesn't immediately flip on upon startup.

That would align with the fact my tick only starts once it drops idle. However how hard would it be for Ford to swap that solenoid and be done with this issue?

 

[accel]

At 2300 miles and factory oil, my tick seems to becoming quieter, and not on every start.

Tonight I started and let idle next to brick wall. After 5 min, not a tick.

Shut car off and immediately started, and bam, tick tick tick.
Shut car off, start immediately, tick tick.
Shut car off , star immediately, NO tick.
Shut car off, start immediately NO tick
Shut car off, start immediately and tick tick tick.

I did this a number of times and it was hit or miss. Sometimes tick, sometimes no tick. Each time I allowed the engine to drop to lower idle, and AC was never on. It was like sometimes whatever is ticking is in phase, and other starts it’s not. Once car was up to full temp, tick was completely gone like usual.

I’m baffled how it’s obviously connected to oil, yet from one start to the next it can come and go? Like the oil flow, pressure or something falls in or out of phase from one ignition to the next.

I also observed that some of engine starts were tick free. 2017 my.

those had to be engine starts with time between them, not consecutive restarts.

 

[Dfeeds]

That would align with the fact my tick only starts once it drops idle. However how hard would it be for Ford to swap that solenoid and be done with this issue?

Well, considering it's been a problem from the birth of the coyote, and the solenoid is new to the 2018+ MY, hard. It may have an influence, but it's definitely not the cause.

 

[Mrmarkmac]

I had the bbq for about 500 or 600 miles and now it's gone. Been gone. 5w30 pennzoil plat. I'll take it.

Just to confirm, you’re running platinum, and not the ultra platinum? I noticed platinum has SN+, while Ultra doesn’t but read it will soon.

 

[Dfeeds]

Just to confirm, you’re running platinum, and not the ultra platinum? I noticed platinum has SN+, while Ultra doesn’t but read it will soon.

Correct, Just the platinum for that very reason. I wanted the newest stuff.

 

[gmupatriot]

Just to confirm, you’re running platinum, and not the ultra platinum? I noticed platinum has SN+, while Ultra doesn’t but read it will soon.

Correct, Just the platinum for that very reason. I wanted the newest stuff.

FYI, I had Walmart deliver 5W-30 Ultra Platinum and it says API SN PLUS.

 

[Jetnoise]

Using SN Plus for LSPI issues or for some other reason?

 

[el-guapin]

FYI, I had Walmart deliver 5W-30 Ultra Platinum and it says API SN PLUS.

it does not show it meets Ford's new B1 Requirement. Just the older A.

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