Any V6 fans?

[66coupe]

26 mpg average in this ecoboost... My 2010 4.0l gets 23-24mpg average. I think it is a very good bet that in real world driving the 3.7 is going to get the better milage. I was set on the ecoboost until I listened to a few videos of the focus st and compared them to the 3.7... That 3.7 just sounds to damn good with the right exhaust!

I think the 3.7 sounds good too, but some four cylinders also have a nice sound to them. I wonder if the EB in the mustang will or can be made to sound better than the EB in the Focus.

As for the mileage, I don't know if we can base too much on this picture. We don't know how this car has been driven, whether it's been idling for long periods of time during demos, how much is city driving, and how much is highway driving. We need the reviews from magazines and early buyers to learn what to really expect. Although I do enjoy getting these bits of information and speculating.

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[66coupe]

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I am really wondering why in Canada the premium for the EB is $3,000 over the price for the V6. That makes the EB convertible $9,000 more expensive then the VG ragtop. Okay, the EB convertible comes with the premium package. But still $3,000 will buy you a lot of gas.

I'm not sure how the EB is configured for Canada, but I suspect the base EB gives you more features than the V6 (that's the case in the US). Plus, I've heard car prices in Canada are higher than in the US, even after taking into account exchange rates. I don't know why that is. The extras you get with the EB may not be worth the extra cost to you (I tend to feel that way), but I've heard others say that they won't consider the V6 because they can't get certain options. It depends on what you want.

And then there is the fact that for the V6 regular unleaded is recommended and for the EB premium. Today I pay for regular $1.34/ltr and for premium $1.43/ltr at the pump.

Turbos requires higher octane because of the higher temperate and pressure created by the turbo. NA engines, like the 3.7, can run just fine on lower octane. Premium fuel is going to be recommended on any turbo.

I am not interested in any performance mods, I think the V6 is the logical choice, at least for me.

I feel the same way. My car will be a daily driver, and I have no interest in mods or racing, but I still want it to be fun. I'm looking for the right combination of acceleration, balance, exhaust note, and practicality.

The more I think about it, the more I'm liking the V6. But we don't know much about the EB yet, and I'm curious what it has to offer and I want to test drive one.

 

[phil1336]

66 coupe; Well one thing you failed to address is that for those who desire a Convertible rather then a Fastback Coupe 2015 Mustang, there is no "Base" EcoBoost 2.4 I4 Convertible. The price difference to go from a "Base" 3.7 V6 Convertible to a "Premium" EB 2.3 I4 Convertible is an extra $5,500 to $6,500 depending whether you opt for the M/T or A/T! Thats a pretty large price bump to get the EB 2.3 I4 and some extra (gadgets).

 

[stangs-R-me]

Enough already phil ... you sound like a broken record.

You point this known fact out at least once a week on this message board; I'd think by now everyone who cares knows this.

And YES, I agree with you but am just tires of seeing the same post over and over.

Doug

 

[phil1336]

Enough already phil ... you sound like a broken record.

You point this known fact out at least once a week on this message board; I'd think by now everyone who cares knows this.

And YES, I agree with you but am just tires of seeing the same post over and over.

Doug

I won`t mention it again, but it seems (you) and other Posters seem oblivious to the fact that what applies to Fastback-Coupe Buyers has nothing whatsoever to do with those buyers interested in the Convertible. Maybe there needs to be a separate "Convertible" Thread so Rag Top enthusiasts can avoid mistakenly being drawn into conversations that have nothing whatsoever to do with others concerns.

 

[stangs-R-me]

Phil,

What makes you think I'm OBLIVIOUS to the fact ... I think you've help etch it on my brain like a bad song that you hear and can't shake for days !!

This thread is 9 pages long and I'll bet you've mentioned it here at least 2 or 3 times.

I think the same $5500 up-charge for the convertible is too high and not worth the added cost ... YES, I live up north, but would probably think this no matter where I live.

Thankfully, Ford has added a lot of NEW content to the base car in that I would be wishing for only TWO features from my current 2011 Premium V6 if I were to go with a base model 2015 V6 or EB. These two features are the Shaker 500 equiv. Sound System and ambient lighting. EVERY OTHER FEATURE that I felt my 2011 needed when I ordered it in 2010 is now STANDARD (or available) on the base V6 / EB.

Doug

 

[phil1336]

Phil,

What makes you think I'm OBLIVIOUS to the fact ... I think you've help etch it on my brain like a bad song that you hear and can't shake for days !!

This thread is 9 pages long and I'll bet you've mentioned it here at least 2 or 3 times.

I think the same $5500 up-charge for the convertible is too high and not worth the added cost ... YES, I live up north, but would probably think this no matter where I live.

Thankfully, Ford has added a lot of NEW content to the base car in that I would be wishing for only TWO features from my current 2011 Premium V6 if I were to go with a base model 2015 V6 or EB. These two features are the Shaker 500 equiv. Sound System and ambient lighting. EVERY OTHER FEATURE that I felt my 2011 needed when I ordered it in 2010 is now STANDARD (or available) on the base V6 / EB.

Doug

With that, I rest my defense for the 2015 Base V6 Mustang Convertible. I am not even getting the one Equipment Upgrade Option, 051A for $995. I don`t want or need the Power Drivers Seat, The LED Fog Lamps that I have (never) used on previous Cars, the 18`` larger Wheels & Tires, and lastly, the Blade Spoiler which I personally detest and would have deleted with Spoiler Delete Option Code #13D. I`m going to add the Spare Tire, Option #66W for $195 and Automatic Transmission. At just $31,315 MSRP (delivered), I thinks its a great value, IMO.

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

I love my V6 in my 2011. Great engine. I'd take it over the 2.3T for feliability, sound, and running costs (any "gains") in fuel economy will be more than offset by the need for higher octane fuel).

Just a shame they don't offer the premium package with the V6. I'm in Florida this week driving a rental car and I'd forgotten the special kind of hell that is a base interior with no leather or bluetooth or decent audio.

 

[Horse]

Here are the EPA numbers of the Ford 2.0L EB engine

Focus ST, 23/32
Fusion, 22/33/26 fwd, 22/31/25 awd

Will 15 Mustang 2.3 EB beat 2.0L EB? If not, V6 will not be much lower than 2.3L EB, I would say.

 

[zackmd1]

Here are the EPA numbers of the Ford 2.0L EB engine

Focus ST, 23/32
Fusion, 22/33/26 fwd, 22/31/25 awd

Will 15 Mustang 2.3 EB beat 2.0L EB? If not, V6 will not be much lower than 2.3L EB, I would say.

The thing to remember here is that fwd cars usually have taller gearing compared to rwd cars. That means the engine will have a higher cruising rpm and as a result less milage. I would be willing to bet the 15's numbers will be around 22 in town and 34 highway. Still not a vast improvement over the v6.

 

[akirasan88]

I would hold judgement till the cars are released. I currently have a 2012 v6, which i think is a great engine. But the lower end torque leaves much to be desired, and this is coming from someone with a S2000 ( Track car ).

I am really hoping for the EB to deliver good torque at lower rpm's. The v6 will continue to be a great cruiser at a TERRIFIC price. And the GT will continue giving the best sound ( subjective ) most power ( stock ) but highest price point ( VERY reasonable when compared to other cars ). The wait is almost over and all 3 are still in the running for me, test drives and long term reviews will tell which I go for

here's a fuelly report to Focus ST real life mpg numbers, they seem VERY similar to what I get in my current v6 depending on the type of driving i am doing. But i will say, I've gotten much lower then the current worst of 21.6 mpg.

http://www.fuelly.com/car/ford/focus/2014 ( make sure to select st in the drop down menu. )

 

[phil1336]

Fuel Economy is a lot like "beauty" much lies in the eyes of the beholder. My previous 2011 Ford Fiesta SE Hatchback with A/T got consistently 33-35 mpg city and 41-43 mpg highway. My 2012 Kia Rio5 Hatchback with A/T and a similar 1600 CC Engine but (with) GDI has never got better then 21-23 mpg city and 29-31 mpg highway, go figure. Both Vehicles driven the same way with identical driving conditions.

 

[Horse]

The thing to remember here is that fwd cars usually have taller gearing compared to rwd cars. That means the engine will have a higher cruising rpm and as a result less milage. I would be willing to bet the 15's numbers will be around 22 in town and 34 highway. Still not a vast improvement over the v6.

I see your point.

But...Focus ST and Fusion are lighter than Mustang, and it is 2.0L vs 2.3L, plus Mustang is sportier. All these go against Mustang EB as far as mpg is concerned. Just my speculations, which is all I can do while waiting for Ford to release the numbers.

 

[zackmd1]

I see your point.

But...Focus ST and Fusion are lighter than Mustang, and it is 2.0L vs 2.3L, plus Mustang is sportier. All these go against Mustang EB as far as mpg is concerned. Just my speculations, which is all I can do while waiting for Ford to release the numbers.

This is also true... Another thing to consider though is aerodynamics. I would be willing to bet the mustang has much better aerodynamics compared to both the fusion and st. Don't quote me on that though, just a hunch.. The fact of the matter is ford has stated that the 2.3l will have the best mpg of all mustangs. That means at least 32mpg highway. (v6 at 31 if ratings stay the same) Just as you stated though all of this is speculation until we get some concrete numbers.

 

[Horse]

This is also true... Another thing to consider though is aerodynamics. I would be willing to bet the mustang has much better aerodynamics compared to both the fusion and st. Don't quote me on that though, just a hunch.. The fact of the matter is ford has stated that the 2.3l will have the best mpg of all mustangs. That means at least 32mpg highway. (v6 at 31 if ratings stay the same) Just as you stated though all of this is speculation until we get some concrete numbers.

I agree that EB will have the best mpg (at least on paper) out of the 3 engines. I also believe/hope that the 2015 V6 will be as good as current V6 if not better.

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