Another Gen 3 Coyote Knocking?

[involutions]

In 6 year of driving, the number of days my mustang has left me stranded and needed towed-0

In 10 months of driving, the number of days my civic has left me stranded and needed towed- 2

Well, as I said, I"m a Honda guy, but perhaps they've gone down hill as well. Mine is a 2017, and a 2006 before that.
However, here's a huge recall Honda made regarding fuel leaks since I originally started this thread:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/honda-recalls-more-700-000-175313884.html

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[PSI]

I’d say the 5.0 Mustang is as reliable as anything put out by Honda. All the posts about this tick and that “knock” are much ado about nothing. You’ll know if something serious is wrong, and it is unlikely. You should hear all the sounds my 2.7 F150 makes.
For what it’s worth my S550 hasn’t really got any significant interior rattles, just a dash vent that gets in the mood once in a while. I’ve never had to repair anything on it, or my F150.
I’ll also say that bias is a powerful thing. For decades now people have had it hammered into their head that Japanese cars are incredibly reliable and near perfect, while American cars are garbage. Because of this people tend to be more forgiving when a Toyota or a Honda has an issue, but when a Ford or Chevy does, they say, “should have bought a Toyota!”
There isn’t a Japanese car or truck on earth that I would trade my Mustang or F150 for. Maybe the Supra, but it’s basically a BMW anyway, and I loved my BMWs.
Enjoy your car and stop worrying about every little noise. If a noise it makes starts to get noticeably worse, then you might have something to worry about.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

I'm on my 2nd S550 and haven't had any interior rattles or repairs (outside of the minor recal stuff). The gen 3 Coyote is definitely noisier than the gen 2 IMO. But overall I think these cars are quite reliable.

 

[Adamone92]

OK, so of course there are several obnoxious and worrisome noises that we are told are "normal" for Coyote engines (and which only seem to be the case in Ford engines as far as I know). I'm a Honda guy, so these noises make me very disappointed in my choice after buying a Ford.

With that said, here is a video of my engine. The noise is most noticeable inside the cabin on the driver's side, but you can hear it under the car as well. I can ONLY hear it at idle, or maybe up to 800 RPM.

I'm not talking about the normal "SHHHHHHH" sound of cam chains and transmission bearings whirring around, and I'm not taking about the typical BBQ lighter noise which you can also hear. I'm talking about the almost rhythmic knocking that sounds sort of like someone tapping the engine block with the tip of a baseball bat.

I've also included a youtube link from another forum member that has a similar noise, but not coming from exactly the same location (mine isn't as noticeable from the top of the engine...).

I know there is a TSB on a noise "like" this one for engines up to 2019, but my car is a 2022 Mach 1. My dealer says, "Normal" but has no reference from Ford literature stating such. This is NOT coming from the HPFP. I put a stethoscope on several points on the engine and accessories, and it seems like it's loudest when the stethoscope is touching the block or timing cover.

sounds like any other coyote mustang ive heard, unless im missing something.

 

[Zrussian13]

Well, as I said, I"m a Honda guy, but perhaps they've gone down hill as well. Mine is a 2017, and a 2006 before that.
However, here's a huge recall Honda made regarding fuel leaks since I originally started this thread:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/honda-recalls-more-700-000-175313884.html

I was a honda guy for 20 years before I bought my mustang and turbo'd it. After dailying a 700 hp mustang I thought I'd never be happy in a little honda again but I really love that little 8th gen! Not as much as the mustang but it's a great car. I just learned all of the issues the early 8th gens are notorious for after buying one. Still have no intention of selling it anytime soon. It's a great back up car to have lying around in case my mustang gives me issues. New cars are just different than old cars. They are pushing tech and fuel efficiency requirements so hard and fast that manufactures can't keep up and they are all suffering from reliability issues. Hell I just got a free brand new clutch in my 21 JL and it had 57,000 miles on it already. It's had recalls since it was new and it took jeep this long to figure out the fix? No shit the fix was a stronger clutch duh! You want to talk about poor build quality, honda and ford are lightyears ahead of chrysler products.

 

[barron64]

My 18 GT, PP1 6sp has 64K miles now. No interior rattles and really no issues. It does gave the Coyote tick but running Penzoil Ultra Platinum 5w-30, and Ceratec if needed, makes it a non-issue.
I really think quality has slipped significantly, with all manufactures, since Covid and the supply chain issues. Add to that all the constraints our government continues to saddle the manufactures with year after year.
I come from Toyota history, 06 Tundra w/130k miles and 07 FJ w/230K miles and the durability of these vehicles is amazing but...they are boring to drive and you have to accept that. The value in a Toyota is its durability, not the fun factor. Sure the Mustang has some issues but you get a lot of bang for the buck. It is valued for the fun, feel and sound it gives while driving it. That cold start, winding out that V8 and rowing through the 6sp, puts a smile on my face every time. Japan would have a hard time building a muscle/pony car and make it a success. They cannot help but to polish off all the rough edges and in the process, lose the visceral feel of what an American V8 is...to the point there is no personality left. That attitude and personality of the 5.0 is what got me hooked to begin with.

 

[Edgemere]

I don't hear anything unusual for a gen 3 Coyote. With the Direct Injecton system, they can be very chatty. Ceratec will help, especially with the BBQ tick. But I wouldn't obsess over it. Your dealer is absolutely correct. Nothing to see here...

Also, the Camaro and Challenger engines are quite noisy too.

I have a 2022 Mustang GT and I have the classic noises that everyone else has mentioned. It pisses me off too. I had a 2018 Camaro 6.2 Hot Wheels and that engine had piston slap noises that made me nuts, just like my Mustang. What I am going to do is spend some additional money on the Ford extended warranty and drive my Mustang. If the friken engine blows they can give me a new one. I do get it. You spend 55K plus on a nice car and the workmanship and materials could be better.

 

[MAGS1]

I have a 2022 Mustang GT and I have the classic noises that everyone else has mentioned. It pisses me off too. I had a 2018 Camaro 6.2 Hot Wheels and that engine had piston slap noises that made me nuts, just like my Mustang. What I am going to do is spend some additional money on the Ford extended warranty and drive my Mustang. If the friken engine blows they can give me a new one. I do get it. You spend 55K plus on a nice car and the workmanship and materials could be better.

I have an ESP also, but I bought it more for all the electronics in these cars and because I have the 10R80 trans. Those are the most concerning parts of these cars to me and even then I’m not super concerned.

I’m not concerned about the gen 3 coyote at all. A 4V, DOHC with a DI pump is going to make noise, that’s the nature of the beast. Given we both have 2022’s, the gen 3 was 5 model years old at that point. If there were any major issues, they would’ve long been reconciled by then. Just my $0.02

 

[SnowFox]

Not to get too off topic, but I’m starting to car shop for my son who turns 16 in spring 2025. He likes the looks of the Civic hatchback but I’m leery as I too see them show up on the naughty lists. Not that any car is infallible but I was quite surprised to see the amount of Hondas that have pretty major issues (engine & trans)

I think allot of people would be surprised. I was as well.

But the inertia of a reputation, confirmation bias and dedicated buyers can carry a brand for decades.

I don't think Hondas are a bad car overall. Just their reputation out ran reality. They are cheap to repair, and some mechanical knowledge go along way with early-mid 2000's cars I think.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

I owned a 2013 Honda Accord as a commuter for a couple years. I thought the build quality was very good, but not measurably better than my 2015 GT. I did have to replace the front axle seals at 85k which I wasn't thrilled about. Overall a solid car but I definitely think the reliability thing is massively overhyped.

 

[ZeroTX]

Ah, yes. You just reminded me to disable the tracking device. For anyone else who wants to do that, at least on the 2022 Mach 1, the tracking router is mounted in front of the driver's tail light. Pull the carpet away and it's there...

What do you do just unplug it?

 

[involutions]

Mine was mounted in the trunk next to the tail light assembly, under the trunk liner. I think it had two antennas and a power plug. GM just got sued big time for this.

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