Another blown ecoboost Engine

[highvoltage]

I never heard what engine related warranty work was done specifically, but the need for any fixes on three cars at the same time in one small town is concerning enough for me. Maybe I worry too much or should stay off the forums (ignorance is bliss right?). I'm really not trying to overreact here. But, I bought one of the first Subaru BRZs in my area and never heard of a single stock motor (brand new design also btw) blowing up in the two years I owned it. Over the past four years now, I've still only seen modified ones failing and even those are fairly rare. A few develop an oil leak after 60k miles, but that's the worst I've seen and is an easy fix. Maybe it's unfair to compare my experiences with an N/A motor to that of a turbo motor, but that's my personal point of reference.

I trust the opinion of Adam and others that have much more experience with EBs than I do and will continue to follow their instructions on how to drive this car to keep it happy (downshifting 2 gears to pass on the highway as if I have no power, much like how I had to drive the BRZ with it's whopping 200 hp and 151 lbs/ft of torque lol).

And no, I'm not using these issues as a scapegoat for wanting a GT. With the Cobb Stage 3 upgrades and Tune+ tune this car is a blast to drive now more than ever. I still plan to keep it at least until I see what improvements MY2018 brings next year. But I want a car I can hop in, drive and enjoy while only having to do oil changes and scheduled maintenance. Is that too much to ask?

Thats total BS on the BRZ dude. I have plenty of close friends with them. Tons of engine issues. There was a damn TSB on the first like 4000 for engine issues.

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[Bullitt]

Thats total BS on the BRZ dude. I have plenty of close friends with them. Tons of engine issues. There was a damn TSB on the first like 4000 for engine issues.

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That's news to me. Mine had a dealer reflash done at one point for the TSB but that's it. I still talk to lots of BRZ owners, not one has told me they had issues other than one friend with an oil leak. Like I said, I can only speak from my experiences of what I've seen. Not saying they're flawless.

 

[CB]

Next time I'm in the market for a new vehicle I'm going to get a team of researchers on it so I don't end up being "ignorant"

 

[AR306]

I have floored my car.. 4th, 5th.. maybe 6th on the highway.. never really noticed any issue and wouldn't think there would be one being it's an automatic but I have been saying for a while, this thing idles funny.. it feels like it's misfiring but there's no warning signs and no audible knock.. it just gives a shake every once in a while when coming to a stop at a light.

 

[jasonstang]

A factory tune should never allow such high pressure at lower rpm if it's dangerous to the engine.
Besides aren't the waste gate controlled electronically nowadays?

 

[RobD]

I'm happy ford replaced your engine with no issues you had to resolve yourself. I wonder if any of you ever feel like you may be the guinea pigs for the the oem's. Seems that way to me. My 08 GT had so many issues that you would of thought they would of had this stuff figured out before production. Seems with every new platform we get these sort of problems and we pay royally for them. I quess it's just a roll of the dice if you get a good car or a problematic car.

 

[CompO5.sl0w]

This brings me back to 2011 when 5.0's were popping the #8 lol. Glad you were taken care of!

 

[timd38]

I'm happy ford replaced your engine with no issues you had to resolve yourself. I wonder if any of you ever feel like you may be the guinea pigs for the the oem's.

First year of production, test driver
Second year, fixed the first year issues and take cost out
Third year, fix cost reductions from second year and have more cost reductions, and "special editions"
Fourth year, refresh a more common parts between models.
Fifth year, more special additions and more consolidation of parts
Sixth year, use up all the left over parts by creating more "special editions"

I use to sell parts to OEMs. I my garage have I have a 2nd year Escape, a 2nd year Corvette, a 2nd year Mustang and a last model year pickup.

 

[highvoltage]

Whats funny is this happens to every car out there. Yet people are always up in arms. Mass produced means failures happen. And the percentages are far from anywhere close to being a problem to the overall numbers of vehicles on the road of the ecoboost

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[DIBS550]

Most people aren't having any problems. Many of us have our EB's tuned to make much more power than stock without problems. I was in the import tuner scene before I got into Jeeps. Popped a motor in a tuner with a tuning mistake and a big shot of N2O. Didn't complain about it and dropped a new motor in it. Broke my built up Jeep last summer on a trail. Didn't complain about it and dropped another $15K on it for repairs and upgrades.

I actually bought the EB Mustang as a daily driver and planned to leave it completely stock. I changed my mind though. It's still my daily driver, just with a lot more power. If I had left it stock and had a problem, Ford would have taken care of it. If I have a problem now, I'll just drop a built motor in it and put a larger turbo on it. Either way, it works for those that want to drive it completely stock, or those who want to drive a surprisingly fast tuner.

I really like the platform. Even if I pop this motor and end up building an EcoBeast, I still won't really have that much money it considering the performance level. I can build it up to 400whp/400torque for well under $40K, pop the motor, drop a new built motor in it, and still be well under $50K. I wish that was all I had in the scratched up, dirty, slow Jeep.

 

[GDP]

Most people aren't having any problems. Many of us have our EB's tuned to make much more power than stock without problems. I was in the import tuner scene before I got into Jeeps. Popped a motor in a tuner with a tuning mistake and a big shot of N2O. Didn't complain about it and dropped a new motor in it. Broke my built up Jeep last summer on a trail. Didn't complain about it and dropped another $15K on it for repairs and upgrades.

I actually bought the EB Mustang as a daily driver and planned to leave it completely stock. I changed my mind though. It's still my daily driver, just with a lot more power. If I had left it stock and had a problem, Ford would have taken care of it. If I have a problem now, I'll just drop a built motor in it and put a larger turbo on it. Either way, it works for those that want to drive it completely stock, or those who want to drive a surprisingly fast tuner.

I really like the platform. Even if I pop this motor and end up building an EcoBeast, I still won't really have that much money it considering the performance level. I can build it up to 400whp/400torque for well under $40K, pop the motor, drop a new built motor in it, and still be well under $50K. I wish that was all I had in the scratched up, dirty, slow Jeep.

I have found the flaw in your logic/or line of 'reasoning' as it were. Not all of us are made of money or have our parents trust funds to rely on. If stock motors are popping then what's to say many more wont after the warranty expires? Are we to just 'suck it up and drive on'?

I should not have to have any knowledge about the engine to buy and start driving a stock car. It's not up to me outside of maintainence to make sure it's reliable. Companies can't just make sure they last long enough to make it outside the warranty and wash their hands of it. Unless they want to stay in business.

Long story short if ford can't build these to handle stock boost/power then don't build them at all at the specs they put out. Seems to me they tried to push these motors too far for marketing purposes to capture people just like you. Import people. I don't like where ford is going recently with trying to go global with the mustang and moving production to Mexico in a few years.

 

[paul123]

I have found the flaw in your logic/or line of 'reasoning' as it were. Not all of us are made of money or have our parents trust funds to rely on.

that poster does seem to be rather casual about throwing around $15k (for Jeep Repair).

I assume if someone buys an Ecoboost, they are attempting to save some money. And buying a new engine doesn't help in that respect.

 

[DIBS550]

I have found the flaw in your logic/or line of 'reasoning' as it were. Not all of us are made of money or have our parents trust funds to rely on. If stock motors are popping then what's to say many more wont after the warranty expires? Are we to just 'suck it up and drive on'?

I should not have to have any knowledge about the engine to buy and start driving a stock car. It's not up to me outside of maintainence to make sure it's reliable. Companies can't just make sure they last long enough to make it outside the warranty and wash their hands of it. Unless they want to stay in business.

Long story short if ford can't build these to handle stock boost/power then don't build them at all at the specs they put out. Seems to me they tried to push these motors too far for marketing purposes.

The percentage of stock motors popping is very low. Also, the drivetrain warranty is 5 years which is usually long enough for any problems to show up. You can also purchase an extended warranty. According to your logic, Ford shouldn't have released the amazing Coyote motor that had some pop at cylinder #8.

Also, the not made of money remark is unnecessary. I am not a trust fund kid. My living trusts were created and funded by me and hold some of my assets I have earned by founding multiple companies, working up to 3 jobs at times, and over 100 hours a week for years at a time. Nothing has ever been handed to me. If you want to drive a tuner, make sure you have money set aside for the problems you will eventually run into. If you're not a tuner, you have a full warranty to take care of you.

 

[Less Weight]

I assume this only effects the Ecoboost motor and not the 5.0, correct?

 

[Old 5 Oh]

Yeah.. with every passing day I regret my decision more and more. Heh.

If you are budget limited, get a V6. You have the base interior, so no loss. You will thank yourself many times over if you are nervous about the EB.

Or suck it up and get the GT you want.

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