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Saying it "drives fine" and "it's optimal" are totally different things - not that you said that but it could be misconstrued. I'm quite sure you can drive your car to grocery store, but is it user friendly with its very steppy/peaky torque curve?

You've gone the max-NA route and I respect and appreciate that, but you've made compromises along the way. Running a 4:30 gear means that just to keep up with a Minivan you're winding that thing out like crazy in the first four gears. A bone stock PP is bad enough. Gearing may give you back some lost torque but it will not shape your torque curve like a working VCT system can - a critical point, here.

I'm not saying this to be confrontational but rather suggesting that you're careful not to mislead about the compromises necessary for a locked-cams, max-NA build for use on the street. I can assure you that the OP doesn't want this. This is done often in the Bimmer world with their high revving HSO motors and while the power can be huge, "good on the street" is never the outcome.

Edit - can you post a dyno of your car?
The torque curve is very flat, and the car drives like stock. My girlfriend's father, who has never owned any type of performance car, was able to hop in and drive it across town for me without issue.

I full heartedly say that this car is good on the street. I would not hesitate to take it cross country.
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Trade car in for a 2018 with dual injection and bolt on's plus cams may get you there...if not porting heads will lol
 

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I dont think id want a 1st year model DI car its going to take aftermarket a while to sort out that new fuel system.....

Only think keeping me from selling or modding my 5.0 is if the gt350 will ever get an auto like the rumors were flying around that it was. Dual clutch auto GT350 id be at the dealership inline to trade....:)
 

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1st year for the 5.0 sure, but competitors have been in the DI game for a while and Ford has had DI engines for a few years now, so they are plenty experienced with DI for me to be comfortable with them adding it to the 5.0 without much concern for reliability. I'm sure Ford has done their homework with the technology using knowledge from their own experience and others.
 

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Not a fan of 1st year anything until its sorted. the DI im not worried about nor am i worried about port injection its combining the 2 that i am. Then add FI on top of that.....

Nah lets see what vendors can do with it 1st. They got more money to play with then the rest of us. Just like me being leery about the blackbird twin turbo kit until its proven my money stays in my pocket.
 

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Lol, you should be more concerned with DI alone than you are with combining them.
 

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Right so combining the 2 is even more complicated.........Until its proven and sorted of course.......:D
Ford has lots of experience with combining the two and adding FI to it. The new GT already has all three with its twin turbo v6. Now do you trust the reviews of the select few chosen by ford to own that car is the question?
 

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They are just coming out with HPFP upgrades for the 3.5 ecos. I'd imagine, since it's a secondary injection system on the 5.0, that it uses the same pump.

Oh, and those pump upgrades ar 1,6-1,850.... I just had to shell it out to go with the built short block and turbos I'm installing in the truck.
 

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^^^^^ need the mod list bruh.
 

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That is an all out road course track monster built and tuned by rev auto...you wont see it on the street accept to drive it up on to its trailer!
 

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That is an all out road course track monster built and tuned by rev auto...you wont see it on the street accept to drive it up on to its trailer!
That and from the description it sounds like it's no longer 5.0L which explains the extra torque over what most see NA.
 

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That's an all out race engine. Can't really compare it to the NA builds we're doing.

Anything over 350 ft/lbs on a big cam 5.0 is substantial.
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