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How to achieve 500rwhp without boost?

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As I've been typing up a list of future mods for my car over the last week or so, some questions about horsepower have come up. I plan to do a split ratio of cosmetic and performance upgrades over the next several months to two years. I'd say a 60/40 split of looks/performance as of now.

That being said, I've been trying to do the math to somehow find a way to reach 500rwhp with a naturally-aspirated Coyote. I certainly haven't ruled out going balls-to-the-wall and installing a supercharger sometime down the road, but it's not anywhere on the immediate horizon for me. I can do a LOT of other mods for $6,000-8,000. Plus, my car is a daily driver and doesn't get raced, so as sweet as some boost would be, it's not a high priority at the moment.

I haven't had my car Dyno'd yet to find out the exact current horsepower number, but my best guess is somewhere around 425 at the rear wheels based on my current performance mods, which include a CAI, 93 octane tune, H-pipe and the Roush axle-back kit. I'm wondering if adding a larger throttle body, larger intake manifold and long tube headers would get me to my goal of 500hp. When Motor Trend Dyno'd an un-modified GT350, it came up with 467rwhp. While I know the Voodoo differs a LOT from the Coyote other than just that additional 0.2 liters of displacement, I don't think it's a far-fetched idea for me to reach 500hp.

Based on what I've researched, the parts in the list below can each give the Coyote an individual HP boost by themselves over stock HP of about:

30hp - Steeda ProFlow cold air intake with 93 octane tune
5hp - Resonator delete H-pipe and Roush axle-back mufflers (or a full cat-back system)
30hp - 1 7/8" Long-tube headers with high-flow cats
5-10hp - 85 to 90mm throttle body
10-20hp - Cobra Jet or GT350 intake manifold

Considering the stock RWHP of the GT is about 395, I'm guessing that when working together as a whole, these parts would give me the additional ponies needed to reach 500, but that's just an educated (or merely hopeful) guess. Does anyone know of any members in here who already put together a setup like this and did some Dyno runs to get some hard data?
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Nitrous...or lie on the correction factor of a dynojet.

Honestly I think that's the only way you're going to reach that number without modifying the bottom end. I have LTs, Steeda with 93 tune, and full 3" exhaust and I'm nowhere near 500, more like 420. And the extra parts you posted "may" get you another 15-20.

However, I'd love to be proved wrong so if you do it please share with everyone here!
 

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Most if not all of the advertised HP increase numbers are BS. Vendors selling smoke and dreams. All of those parts together might yield 1/4 - 1/2 the HP claims.

BTW - a friend of mine just purchased a GT350 and to get the Ford claimed stock HP, they had to run 98 octane. This is on his brand new dyno.

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The shop that does the work on my Corvette had one of the tuners show 580RWHP for a stroked LS3, the shop owner said that it was BS and checked the calibration and the tuner messed with it to show 50 more than it had.

 
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Thanks for the quick replies and thread links, folks.

This sums up my hopes of 500HP now. :lol:

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Most if not all of the advertised HP increase numbers are BS. Vendors selling smoke and dreams. All of those parts together might yield 1/4 - 1/2 the HP claims.
You're not kidding, some of these guys fall for them hook line and sinker.:p
 

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500whp is attainable with the following:

Properly sized intake with cobra jet intake manifold
--port match cobra jet intake to our 5.0 heads
Stage 1 cams
Long tubes w/exhaust
47 lb injectors w/ e85 tune

Should be slightly over 500whp at 7k.
 

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Based on what I've researched, the parts in the list below can each give the Coyote an individual HP boost by themselves over stock HP of about:

30hp - Steeda ProFlow cold air intake with 93 octane tune
5hp - Resonator delete H-pipe and Roush axle-back mufflers (or a full cat-back system)
30hp - 1 7/8" Long-tube headers with high-flow cats
5-10hp - 85 to 90mm throttle body
10-20hp - Cobra Jet or GT350 intake manifold
Missing two major item, cam's and injectors. Even with those, may only get close.
 

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you missed a set of cams, some say it isn't required, but in the end they all add up!!! It also depends on how radical the tune is too
 

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I'd rather spend 6-8k on a blower and be able to upgrade the system in the future.

You'll spend 6-8k trying to achieve 500rwhp N/A and not be able to go much farther past that without FI of some sort anyways.
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