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I don't understand why Ford cannot get a few pictures together and write a press release for the vehicles while employees are at home. You would think that would be pretty easy. Build hype after the lockdown is over (especially considering quite a few people will not be buying cars for the foreseeable future). Instead, Ford seems insistent on having these extravagant vehicle launch events that does very little IMO towards building hype. For the Bronco, release it online and invite a select few youtubers to drive the prototypes offroad after some restrictions are lifted. That would get you more fan fare then the launch event they were likely planning and can still be done during these times. Same for the new Mach 1/MY21 Mustang except invite them to a track.
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Or even, in the case of the Mustang, just give us a damn teaser.

Was the Mach 1 VIN document "leaked" by them? Possibly. But a shadowy image of the new '21MY front end would at least start to rank the excitement up a notch :like:
 

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Or even, in the case of the Mustang, just give us a damn teaser.

Was the Mach 1 VIN document "leaked" by them? Possibly. But a shadowy image of the new '21MY front end would at least start to rank the excitement up a notch :like:
The only reasonable explanation I can think of for delaying so much is they don't want to step on the toes of the current deals they are offering to move cars. Given the state of things and their share price, they probably want to move cars now, rather than worry about building excitement for later. Just playing Devil's business advocate.
 

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But a shadowy image of the new '21MY front end would at least start to rank the excitement up a notch
Just hold a photo-shoot of the car in it's full glory, but place one or two of Kilo's stable of models in strategic locations to 'cover up', er visually block certain design elements.
 

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The only reasonable explanation I can think of for delaying so much is they don't want to step on the toes of the current deals they are offering to move cars. Given the state of things and their share price, they probably want to move cars now, rather than worry about building excitement for later. Just playing Devil's business advocate.
That's actually a fair point. Either way, I just need to be patient........something I'm not good at when it comes to Mustangs :giggle:
 

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The only reasonable explanation I can think of for delaying so much is they don't want to step on the toes of the current deals they are offering to move cars. Given the state of things and their share price, they probably want to move cars now, rather than worry about building excitement for later. Just playing Devil's business advocate.
Possibly but the "incentives" that are out right now are actually quite bad when you start looking into them. First off, the 0% for 84 is for MY19s only. It's pretty late in the game to still have plentiful new MY19s on the lot. Secondly, the restriction is still there that other incentives cannot be combined with the 0%. So that advertised price that's 10k lower then MSRP vanishes if you want 0%.

To top it all off, dealerships are far from desperate to sell right now. They have insurance for times like this so they have no extra incentive to complete a sale right now. They might even have less. So if Ford wants to start moving cars, they are going to have to do ALOT better.
 

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Possibly but the "incentives" that are out right now are actually quite bad when you start looking into them. First off, the 0% for 84 is for MY19s only. It's pretty late in the game to still have plentiful new MY19s on the lot. Secondly, the restriction is still there that other incentives cannot be combined with the 0%. So that advertised price that's 10k lower then MSRP vanishes if you want 0%.

To top it all off, dealerships are far from desperate to sell right now. They have insurance for times like this so they have no extra incentive to complete a sale right now. They might even have less. So if Ford wants to start moving cars, they are going to have to do ALOT better.
You are correct, but I think we all know the common consumer does not remotely go this in depth when it comes to analyzing a deal. They see: New Car, 0%, 84 months. and nothing beyond that. Its an incentive setup that will fool probably 85% of automotive buyers into purchasing without looking deeper.
 

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I can't lie, a $56k Bullitt for under $40k is very tempting. That's a lot of car for not very much and the dark highland green is a nice color.

I'd really like a 10-speed though, preferably a Mach 1.
 

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First off, the 0% for 84 is for MY19s only... So that advertised price that's 10k lower then MSRP vanishes if you want 0%.
Depends... the 2019 model restriction was the original March deal, if you look again, it's now 'select' 2019/2020/2021, and some areas have Bullitts eligible. And, as I understand it, the $1500 "Built to lend a hand" incentive is what's applied to 'cancel out' the first three payments. So yeah, you can get some good deals on new 2020s. Also, in my area dealers are knocking off a fair amount as a 'dealer discount'.

Currently looking at a 2020 premium PP2, with active exhaust and B&O with 0/84 for $44k on a $51.3k sticker.
 

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Could the two different motor VIN designations be one for Manual Trans, and one for an Auto Trans? The Auto seems to be able to take more power than the current Manual 6 Speed...
 

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Depends... the 2019 model restriction was the original March deal, if you look again, it's now 'select' 2019/2020/2021, and some areas have Bullitts eligible. And, as I understand it, the $1500 "Built to lend a hand" incentive is what's applied to 'cancel out' the first three payments. So yeah, you can get some good deals on new 2020s. Also, in my area dealers are knocking off a fair amount as a 'dealer discount'.

Currently looking at a 2020 premium PP2, with active exhaust and B&O with 0/84 for $44k on a $51.3k sticker.
It is most likely region based. Here in Maryland they are so far adhering to the 19 only and no additional incentives. The point I am trying to make here is that auto manufactures need to wake up to the reality that overnight the economy went from doing good to recession/depression levels and will likely stay here for some time. The half a** "incentives" that might have provided a bump in sales in pre lockdown economy are not going to cut it going forward. If they can't adapt they will be in for a really rough road ahead. So far Ford is not giving me confidence that they can adapt through both the incentives and delayed vehicle launches.
 

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Lincoln center caps? Are they just messing with us or hinting?
It's got the Continental AWD 3.0 TT in it, this is their way of letting us know. :wink: :)
 

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It's got the Continental AWD 3.0 TT in it, this is their way of letting us know. :wink: :)
On a serious note, is there any chance they would be making a Mustang based sports car for the Lincoln lineup? Something to appeal to more upscale buyers that may want say a "poor mans" Aston Martin but not a Jag?

If like the rumors are true that the F and E lines will stay Ford but the SUV/car lines will be split between "mustang" and Lincoln this could be a possibility. I don't personally see it likely though.
 

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Wonder if the MY21 Mustang will actually start production in 2021 due to the delays?
 

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Wonder if the MY21 Mustang will actually start production in 2021 due to the delays?
I wouldn't think it'll be that late. New model year production is usually Sept/Oct time, so as long as Flat Rock is back in operation by then, things should still fall into place. Of course, if this pandemic isn't easing by then, well, anything is possible.
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