2016 Camaro Official Specs!!!

[Kevin08]

The Stang does not stand a chance against the SS. The base GT350 is our only hope. 435 hp and more weight means a slower car.

Nah, wait until thePill comes in here and sets you straight with some random magazine article facts and insider information that reveals GM's massive conspiracy to not only sell cars that weigh more than what they say they do, but also their master plan to bankrupt themselves so they can sneak a black man into the Presidency and use government funds to improve the Cadillac brand.

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[Nataphen]

Honestly, I didn't expect the Camaro to be this light. What panels are aluminum on it? I'm actually curious how they found so much weight to lose. There are a lot of lightweight parts on the Mustang, the engine is lighter, the trans is lighter, and it still weighs more.

 

[Blk2015GT]

The Stang does not stand a chance against the SS. The base GT350 is our only hope. 435 hp and more weight means a slower car.

:lol: Have to agree with that emoji.

So you want to totally ignore the FOUR THOUSAND DOLLAR price difference?

Give me your base GT and $4k and I'll bolt on enough to make you spank the 1SS for the same price- wide wheels/tires, springs, bushings, tune/CAI, Stainless Power headers, gut the suitcase/resonator for a X/H.

The base GT is 3705 pounds and 1SS 3685 pounds bone stock. The GT will now have 440-450 at the wheels vs the 1SS with 460 at the crank (about 415 at the wheels) and be about the same weight with lighter aftermarket wheels and gutting the heavy exhaust resonator.

I bet you get the GT to 5 pounds lighter and 35-40 more hp to the wheels for the same $37,500.

 

[Erik427]

:lol: Have to agree with that emoji.

So you want to totally ignore the FOUR THOUSAND DOLLAR price difference?

Give me your base GT and $4k and I'll bolt on enough to make you spank the 1SS for the same price- wide wheels/tires, springs, bushings, tune/CAI, Stainless Power headers, gut the suitcase/resonator for a X/H.

The base GT is 3705 pounds and 1SS 3685 pounds bone stock. The GT will now have 440-450 at the wheels vs the 1SS with 460 at the crank (about 415 at the wheels) and be about the same weight with lighter aftermarket wheels and gutting the heavy exhaust resonator.

I bet you get the GT to 5 pounds lighter and 35-40 more hp to the wheels for the same $37,500.

I'm a Ford Guy just like you. Stock for stock, the camaro has a huge advantage. Lighter, more hp and more tq makes for a faster car. Not everybody wants to mod there brand new car. Ford missed the hp/tq target while having it in their sights. From the factory. The Stang needs a huge hp/tq bump. I recommend either the new 3.5 TT or a cross plane crank version of the 5.2 Voodo. Until then, we will be looking at the tail lights of the camaro.

 

[stage3s4]

I'm a Ford Guy just like you. Stock for stock, the camaro has a huge advantage. Lighter, more hp and more tq makes for a faster car. Not everybody wants to mod there brand new car. Ford missed the hp/tq target while having it in their sights. From the factory. The Stang needs a huge hp/tq bump. I recommend either the new 3.5 TT or a cross plane crank version of the 5.2 Voodo. Until then, we will be looking at the tail lights of the camaro.

doesn't the a stock GT with an auto run like 12.5@113? Thats pretty close to the estimated 12.3@116 of the camaro. The manual is likely very close as well. The camaro may be slightly faster but I wouldn't say its that much faster especially once you start adding mods. I think both cars will end up being pretty close in performance at the end of the day.

 

[mustang_guy]

doesn't the a stock GT with an auto run like 12.5@113? Thats pretty close to the estimated 12.3@116 of the camaro. The manual is likely very close as well. The camaro may be slightly faster but I wouldn't say its that much faster especially once you start adding mods. I think both cars will end up being pretty close in performance at the end of the day.

people have done 12.5 in the manuals too.

 

[stage3s4]

people have done 12.5 in the manuals too.

Even better! I was trying to find manual times but they are not listed in the 1/4 mile thread. I think guys are too hung up on HP and curb weight numbers and not actual real world performance numbers. Trap speeds in general will give you a really good idea just how fast your car is. 116 trap speed for a stock car is really impressive for sure but 112-113 isn't that much slower in reality.

 

[Fox5.0]

I'm a Ford Guy just like you. Stock for stock, the camaro has a huge advantage. Lighter, more hp and more tq makes for a faster car. Not everybody wants to mod there brand new car. Ford missed the hp/tq target while having it in their sights. From the factory. The Stang needs a huge hp/tq bump. I recommend either the new 3.5 TT or a cross plane crank version of the 5.2 Voodo. Until then, we will be looking at the tail lights of the camaro.

Even if it outperforms the mustang, fords in it to make money. They will continue to make money because of the price gap. Don't believe me? Look what happened in the past. To 90% of people, 4k is a huge difference and it's not really worth .5 of a second. That's close to 100$ a month, no thank you. If ford can shave about 100 pounds off the s550 it will be a direct competition with a car that needed a whole new motor, chassis, transmission and design to beat it. IMO the camaro isn't really worth it, GM threw everything they have. Ford just needs to drop weight and add DI.

 

[phrenetiK]

it could have 500whp and I wouldn't bat an eye at it. in its stock form at least, it is incredibly ugly.

 

[stage3s4]

Even if it outperforms the mustang, fords in it to make money. They will continue to make money because of the price gap. Don't believe me? Look what happened in the past. To 90% of people, 4k is a huge difference and it's not really worth .5 of a second. That's close to 100$ a month, no thank you. If ford can shave about 100 pounds off the s550 it will be a direct competition with a car that needed a whole new motor, chassis, transmission and design to beat it. IMO the camaro isn't really worth it, GM threw everything they have. Ford just needs to drop weight and add DI.

We dont need DI. I hate DI. It does nothing but cause headaches and problems for performance vehicals. Port injection works fine and has been proven to make big power consistently. I want to be able to run e85 on my car without spending thousands on complicated fuel systems.

 

[Blk2015GT]

I'm a Ford Guy just like you. Stock for stock, the camaro has a huge advantage. Lighter, more hp and more tq makes for a faster car. Not everybody wants to mod there brand new car. Ford missed the hp/tq target while having it in their sights. From the factory. The Stang needs a huge hp/tq bump. I recommend either the new 3.5 TT or a cross plane crank version of the 5.2 Voodo. Until then, we will be looking at the tail lights of the camaro.

You can't say I care about .2 secs in the 1/4 mile in the same sentence as I dont want to mod my car at all. The only people who care about bone stock times are car magazine tests and stoplight queens whose pride rests against the car next to them at a stoplight (lame-o "fast and furious" wanna-bes in my opinion).

You either have a daily driver and enjoy it for what it is bone stock (or lightly modded too as some do) or you race and mod your car.

But regardless, the point is dollar for dollar the GT is a better buy for what you can get with the same dollar/cents.

To 90% of people, 4k is a huge difference and it's not really worth .5 of a second.

This. I can't say it enough times price matters; especially a few thousand.

 

[02gtnh]

You can't say I care about .2 secs in the 1/4 mile in the same sentence as I dont want to mod my car at all. The only people who care about bone stock times are car magazine tests and stoplight queens whose pride rests against the car next to them at a stoplight (lame-o "fast and furious" wanna-bes in my opinion).

You either have a daily driver and enjoy it for what it is bone stock (or lightly modded too as some do) or you race and mod your car.

But regardless, the point is dollar for dollar the GT is a better buy for what you can get with the same dollar/cents.




This. I can't say it enough times price matters; especially a few thousand.

Over 1/2 that $4000 will be needed for tires and wheels. If your just talking straight line, then yes. But there isn't to many who but theses for 1/4 mile racing. The stock handling is crap with a low .85g. For a v8 sports car, that is bad.

 

[mustang_guy]

We dont need DI. I hate DI. It does nothing but cause headaches and problems for performance vehicals. Port injection works fine and has been proven to make big power consistently. I want to be able to run e85 on my car without spending thousands on complicated fuel systems.

i agree about not needing di. Di is a highly flawwed fuel system currently.

 

[Blk2015GT]

Over 1/2 that $4000 will be needed for tires and wheels. If your just talking straight line, then yes. But there isn't to many who but theses for 1/4 mile racing. The stock handling is crap with a low .85g. For a v8 sports car, that is bad.

Well first the aftermarket wheels will 99% be lighter than the stock 1SS. You can get 19s that are 20 lbs for $260/wheel. And you can get wheels/tires for $2k easily.

So what if it's half? All you need it $2000 to get 450 to the wheels- tune, CAI and headers will do it with some elbow grease. And an exhaust shop for $50-100 to cut off the resonator and weld in an H/X.


Im not talking 1/4 mile racing a $4k modded GT vs a 1SS- this is the mistake everyone is making interpreting what I'm saying. What I'm saying is money matters in the total equation and if you want to take the same price the GT can perform better.

You can't just put car $4k more expensive next to the other and say done. If so then put a loaded 2SS next to a GT350 for $49k and the Camaro will get a spanking. It's all relative.

 

[02gtnh]

So your basically saying, if Car and driver or any other mag did a shootout between the GTPP and 1SS, the the GTPP would win.

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