The thread title reads "2016 Camaro Official Specs!!!", not "2016 Camaro vs Mustang at the Drag Strip", and some of the earliest spec mention was in fact about the lateral g's.
Ok so then lets use the GTPP. GTPP is .95 SS is .97
Headers? You can't drop the headers mod without mentioning labor costs. Unless you have a lift, headers are basically impossible to do in your driveway.
PLENTY of people have done headers on jack stands in their garage. In fact the people paying for install are likely the minority of people installing them.
thats not true. Doing it in the driveway is fine. Took me 5hrs first time installing a set on a buddies
First and foremost, as I've mentioned a few times, the beefier brakes alone are worth their weight in gold to any serious motorsports enthusiast. And no, they are not even close to "even". Having 15", 6-pot rotors up front is a *HUGE* advantage if you're going to track your car. The advantage there FAR outweights the Camaro's .3" advantage in the rear. Rear brakes hardly do any of the braking on the track with a front engined car except for controlling oversteer. And if you want to upgrade the factory brakes on the 1SS to what you get in the PP, you are talking about spending $5-7K with installation. And that is a relatively high-risk upgrade (I personally would like to avoid ****ing with brakes and get as much braking power as possible from the factory).
I can't see many doing a tune on a new car blowing warranty. A cai is fine and exhaust. If headers are on, then a tune is needed to maximize it and that is a big risk on a $38000 car. We already found out that a 255/19 tire actually has less tread on the pavement then a 245/20. Not much difference, but it is less.
It's a valid point. Idc if you think it's an old excuse, it's reality. The majority of people here still owe on their vehicle, and yet still modded. It will be the same on the camaro, albeit their mods wont be as responsive as the mustang. f you have the budget of a base 1SS, the cars SHOULD be about equal. I'll agree to that.
Props to you. I have a plethora of tools, jacks, and stands but would still be hesitant to undertake it. Dropping the subframe isn't something that the majority of people here will be able to do, you have to agree to that. You're a master technician ay BMW, that gives you a leg up.
Again, anyone who actually cares about speed/performance-related numbers, is not overly concerned about warranty. They don't go together. After-all the whole point of racing is to go as fast as possible; not run a bone stock car down the strip.
You need to read up more on this forum. Loads of people tuning these cars already. And the people who refuse to for warranty reasons arent tracking their cars (voided warranty) which is the only place you will see any differences in performance.
Just because one takes out a loan doesn't mean they're on a budget. In fact most who take out loans do so because they are on a budget- either monthly or total price. Again, otherwise at always "ONLY" a few dollars up to the next car and the next and next. Another $100/month from a $40k loan you're probably at a GT350 which will spank the GTPP and SS both by far. There's always a better car "only' $100 a month away. This is exactly the mentality how how people get their cars repo'd too.
Better said than I did. I just dont get the argument that "I care about performance side by side with another car" but want to keep my warranty. They dont go hand in hand at all. Well the best you're going to do is bone stock then on a stoplight queen.
ill be ordering the car and then immediately start working on a 1200hp car. Ripping the trans out for a tremec, axles, different brakes, built motor, blowrr blah blah. :lol: fuck warranty
