ESS Centrifugal Mustang Superchargers

[Slow Yote]

Yeah I know, I’ll probably swap it out later. Is it easy to swap that out once the kit is already installed?

If you’re going to swap it out, don’t run it.

They’re easy to install either way though.

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[tritonx]

Thanks for the answers, also, I’m sure this has been beat to death but if I want to stay at high 600 wheel, since I only have pump 93 available and want to keep it relatively safe on the engine, would the g3 or g2 be less parasitic and “safer” at those numbers? I know both are capable of 700 wheel although you never see anyone compare which is more efficient/safer for the engine on the same power

 

[Slow Yote]

Thanks for the answers, also, I’m sure this has been beat to death but if I want to stay at high 600 wheel, since I only have pump 93 available and want to keep it relatively safe on the engine, would the g3 or g2 be less parasitic and “safer” at those numbers? I know both are capable of 700 wheel although you never see anyone compare which is more efficient/safer for the engine on the same power

G3. Simply because it’s marginally more expensive but more efficient and more capable.

 

[Bob Lob Law]

More capable, yes. More efficient, I don't believe it is. It's just a bigger impeller so it makes more boost on the same pulley. That's not necessarily more efficient.

 

[Wolfys11]

I'm running the steeda minimum drop springs. They say it's only a half inch, but i think it's closer to an inch.

You could swap the rear springs to steeda or bmr drag springs, they make minimum drop i believe, imo they help a ton for street

 

[robvas]

You can also always only do rear drag springs and front track springs for maximizing each for their intended purpose, as front springs being drag doesnt really help much for drag racing conditions

You definitely want a front drag spring to loosen the front end up and get weight transfer. Too stiff of a spring won't let the front come up, "handling" springs are typically much stiffer than a drag spring

 

[Wolfys11]

You definitely want a front drag spring to loosen the front end up and get weight transfer. Too stiff of a spring won't let the front come up, "handling" springs are typically much stiffer than a drag spring

Yes but for someone trying to get something in between, i think rear springs are more important than fronts for drag

Having all 4 drag springs still gets decent handling though

 

[robvas]

Yes but for someone trying to get something in between, i think rear springs are more important than fronts for drag

Having all 4 drag springs still gets decent handling though

The rears are going to be very, very close in spring rate for either a "handling" or "drag" rear spring, depends of course on the exact manufacturer. Both like 800lb/in or so

The fronts are going to be the difference, 150lb-in vs 250 for example

Those stiff fronts won't really do you any favors in weight transfer. I'd almost do a just a stiffer rear spring and the leave the fronts stock if you didn't want a drag spring up front

 

[RiotfunK]

Thanks for the answers, also, I’m sure this has been beat to death but if I want to stay at high 600 wheel, since I only have pump 93 available and want to keep it relatively safe on the engine, would the g3 or g2 be less parasitic and “safer” at those numbers? I know both are capable of 700 wheel although you never see anyone compare which is more efficient/safer for the engine on the same power

I would say boost is boost. Just make sure you have the right components for it and a semi conservative tune. I went G3/120mm and G3 intercooler, catch cans, 170 thermostat, BAP, GT500 injectors and plugs on a 93 tune. lil over 700hp. Drives great. I was looking same thing when I was first looking. This leaves me options to go more power if needed or drop to 125mm. Ask ESS. Might be a little more strain spinning a larger unit.

 

[tritonx]

I would say boost is boost. Just make sure you have the right components for it and a semi conservative tune. I went G3/120mm and G3 intercooler, catch cans, 170 thermostat, BAP, GT500 injectors and plugs on a 93 tune. lil over 700hp. Drives great. I was looking same thing when I was first looking. This leaves me options to go more power if needed or drop to 125mm. Ask ESS. Might be a little more strain spinning a larger unit.

Yeah I’m basically going that exact same setup, just deciding between the g2 or g3. I dont mind paying extra so I guess I’ll go the g3 simply because everyone recommends it. Wengerd is going to be my tuner

 

[RiotfunK]

Yeah I’m basically going that exact same setup, just deciding between the g2 or g3. I dont mind paying extra so I guess I’ll go the g3 simply because everyone recommends it. Wengerd is going to be my tuner

Wengerd tuned mine. You are in good hands. He'll take care of you. If you don't have a tuning device. I recommend the AVID unit

 

[Slow Yote]

Yeah I’m basically going that exact same setup, just deciding between the g2 or g3. I dont mind paying extra so I guess I’ll go the g3 simply because everyone recommends it. Wengerd is going to be my tuner

You also get the bigger intercooler, which if you upgraded to eight the g2 kit makes the cost difference almost nothing.

 

[2023esscoyote]

Anybody seen gains going from Shoemaker to Wengerd? I know Wengerd is the top tuner for the ESS kits. Anybody have any data from switching 60-130 or 1/8 or 1/4 mile comparing both?

 

[engineermike]

Anybody seen gains going from Shoemaker to Wengerd? I know Wengerd is the top tuner for the ESS kits. Anybody have any data from switching 60-130 or 1/8 or 1/4 mile comparing both?

Be careful asking for this. If going faster than the other tuners is the goal, then that's easy. Shift it at 8000+, run it lean like .85 lambda, run the timing up against the knock sensors, disable COT, run Drag shifts with no modulation, you'll have the fastest one for what it is. It's also a time bomb. And yes, I've seen pro tuners do many variations of the above.

 

[2023esscoyote]

Be careful asking for this. If going faster than the other tuners is the goal, then that's easy. Shift it at 8000+, run it lean like .85 lambda, run the timing up against the knock sensors, disable COT, run Drag shifts with no modulation, you'll have the fastest one for what it is. It's also a time bomb. And yes, I've seen pro tuners do many variations of the above.

it’s not about going faster than the other tuner. Overall experience, trans tuning etc.

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