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Even though our cars are parked in the garage at home, we still keep our fobs in an RFID blocking box. Got it from Amazon, works well. Several options out there for pouches to carry around as well.
As someone else mentioned, if someone really wants to take it, they’re going to by any means necessary. Good insurance, vary your routes/routines whenever possible, park in different locations whenever possible, etc. Blocking the VIN tag is a good idea as well, my sun shade blocks it so I almost always use it when I’m parked in public, even in winter time. Between that and my window tint, makes it harder to see inside as well (not that that’s a huge deterrent but I think it helps).
Take whatever precautions you can and don’t sweat the rest. Odds are low it will happen and outside of those precautions, the rest is out of your control. As I tell my kids and used to tell my teams that I coached, control the controllables. Don’t drive yourself nuts about things you can’t control, it takes the enjoyment out of it and life’s too short for that
As someone else mentioned, if someone really wants to take it, they’re going to by any means necessary. Good insurance, vary your routes/routines whenever possible, park in different locations whenever possible, etc. Blocking the VIN tag is a good idea as well, my sun shade blocks it so I almost always use it when I’m parked in public, even in winter time. Between that and my window tint, makes it harder to see inside as well (not that that’s a huge deterrent but I think it helps).
Take whatever precautions you can and don’t sweat the rest. Odds are low it will happen and outside of those precautions, the rest is out of your control. As I tell my kids and used to tell my teams that I coached, control the controllables. Don’t drive yourself nuts about things you can’t control, it takes the enjoyment out of it and life’s too short for that
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Watch this 37 sec video. Not a mustang but shows how fast a car can be taken. This was one of my tennants cars. Newer camry. My friend is a city police officer and has seen so many chargers and challengers stolen. A lot of them used in crimes or destroyed in those crazy videos.
If they steal it you most likely don't want it back after they are done with it. If I'm out of town with mine I use faraday pouch and overnight pull the relay so it won't start.
If they steal it you most likely don't want it back after they are done with it. If I'm out of town with mine I use faraday pouch and overnight pull the relay so it won't start.
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It goes to show the 1 simple statement in life or at least in IT: "If it can be made, it can be bypassed/hacked"
But I know of 1 DIY system that cant be bypassed because unless you know it exists you dont know what your looking for, Back in the day it was quiet effective, similar concept to the Ravelco except you didnt see it, and you dont know what you dont see. But more over my bringing this topic up was more about if Fords key copying was just as easy as Dodges using the ODB-II port and also using another tracking device that aside from the criminal network wouldnt be smart enough or have the tools for, any crime network hunting for your car is good as gone, thats why I mentioned about a hidden GPS tracker aside from the one that is already known from the the mfgr.
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Surprised nobody already said the "well that's why there are manual transmissions" comment?
Okay I'll be that dude.
If a thief wants your car, its gonna be gone regardless no matter what.
Don't lose sleep over it but also be responsible and not an idiot.
Okay I'll be that dude.
If a thief wants your car, its gonna be gone regardless no matter what.
Don't lose sleep over it but also be responsible and not an idiot.
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Tech and IT is not my area of expertise but my understanding is Ford is a bit better than Dodge in that regard. I don’t have any info or experience other than “Trust me bro” to back that up though.
FWIW, Challenger/Charger and Hyundai/Kia are the ones I hear about most in my area as far as theft/attempted theft.
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On the superduty tremor forums there are videos posted of people stealing their superduties super easily! One that comes to mind, a guy(ended up a tech I believe) walked right up to a SD that had just came off the delivery truck with a tablet. Whatever program he had it had copied the rfd signal from the key. So, he walked up and grabbed the handle it opened and he got in and started it and drove off. Fords are easy to steal and SDs have are a real issue close to the border. They're just not AS easy as the dodges.
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They can’t steal it if they can’t start it… unless they bring a repo truck or flatbed…
Place an interrupter switch in the fuel pump harness - you can also do the same by tapping into the coils or battery…
If you can stop spark/fuel, doesn’t matter if they scanned your FOB and hooked up to the OBD port, they’re not going anywhere if the car won’t start.
For the manual trans guys - place an interrupter switch at the clutch switch… so if some perp jumps in and tried to start the car, it won’t start because the hidden secondary switch is “off”…
This is not “new” tech to stop someone from stealing your ride - it’s a simple switch (that you hide) installed between A and B to kill the connection which kills any chance of a perp being able to fire up the car…
It’s basics…
Place an interrupter switch in the fuel pump harness - you can also do the same by tapping into the coils or battery…
If you can stop spark/fuel, doesn’t matter if they scanned your FOB and hooked up to the OBD port, they’re not going anywhere if the car won’t start.
For the manual trans guys - place an interrupter switch at the clutch switch… so if some perp jumps in and tried to start the car, it won’t start because the hidden secondary switch is “off”…
This is not “new” tech to stop someone from stealing your ride - it’s a simple switch (that you hide) installed between A and B to kill the connection which kills any chance of a perp being able to fire up the car…
It’s basics…
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This was the DIY from yester year I was talking about couldn't think of the word "interrupter", but the DIY I know was such a simple unit, the key was knowing where to look and activate it. I wont say what it is publicly cause I would believe short of a flatbed & or tow truck the car wont go anywhere as I said unless you know what your looking for.
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41.22 switch and Farraday pouches
junits15
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if you're anxious a guy i work with had a very high end can bus immobilizer installed on his ZL1
It requires that you push a button combo when you start the car every time, without the button combo the can bus is basically entirely dead so the car can't be started. It has some carjack mode too thats supposed to guard against that,
Has no lights or visible boxes, the guy that installed it didn't even tell him where the thing is, its entirely transparent. Definitely a nice system, but in our state there's barely any car theft at all, he just wanted it for peace of mind. Also ZL1's like mustangs aren't targeted by thieves as much as the dodges and hyundai's
It requires that you push a button combo when you start the car every time, without the button combo the can bus is basically entirely dead so the car can't be started. It has some carjack mode too thats supposed to guard against that,
Has no lights or visible boxes, the guy that installed it didn't even tell him where the thing is, its entirely transparent. Definitely a nice system, but in our state there's barely any car theft at all, he just wanted it for peace of mind. Also ZL1's like mustangs aren't targeted by thieves as much as the dodges and hyundai's
Brigadir
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This is the key point and interesting why it isn’t the default approach in US. In Europe (eastern at least) it’s a standard design for anti theft systems - a remote relay is cut in the car’s circuit that is controlled by a fob. Based on this concept more features are built like GSM control from the phone, integration with the factory fob, etc…
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