S550 values to increase?

[Kobi Addiction]

For $109k you don’t get boost. SA says you get 480hp. You’re going to spend another $10-15k for the boost. Worth it now??

You do get boost. $109k starting price with 810 hp. Check the website to build one out.

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[MachNroll]

While I was standing in the parts line yesterday at my ford dealership, it was hard not to notice the Dark Horse displayed 10 feet away. Just to humor myself I took a couple steps back to see the window sticker on this non-HP car with a matt wrap. No ADM but still stickers at $80k. Unreal. With the newest version of the GT350 beginning at nearly $110k for a base POS, it’s hard not to think that nearly any s550 is a bargain. I make a decent income, but I am puzzled how anyone justifies that kind of money for something so pedestrian. Do you really think that a base ($109k) 2025 GT350 is going to be a nanosecond faster than any S550 GT350? For twice the price??
Which one will hold its value better over time? Which one makes a better NOISE?
I just don’t get it. Perhaps marketing is just that powerful that it can overcome common sense. There are going to be a lot of winners and losers when this all shakes out. I’m in it for the “W”.

Well, I'm still seeing 5 year old GT350's listed in the $60k range so it appears that they are holding value pretty well.

But for how much longer will people pony up $65k for a '19 or '20 GT350 that is out of factory warranty? I don't think the "new" generation of car enthusiasts will be the buyers in this case. The new generation of enthusiasts if they like cars that go vroom will likely gravitate towards the Dark Horse because of the tech/dash setup and they're probably who Ford was marketing toward when they designed the DH.

Now, if we're talking about a price range of say $85k to $110k, there is always the Corvette, which will likely hold its value pretty well. But ya gotta be a vette fan and I'm not. Heck, I don't think I could climb into and out of a vette

 

[Crew4991]

I don't think values will increase as others have said, but I think (in general) clean examples of S550 cars will hold on to their value.

The S650s come at a steep price and they aren't much different than S550s besides a facelifted exterior and a different interior.

That high price point for the new ones forces many people to look at older S550 models due to the price alone. The S550 really clung to their values in the high $20k to low $40k range for V8s just because the new ones cost so much more.

If a S550 has a unique color, low miles, no accidents, ownership records, highly optioned, manual transmission, or other desirable wishes, the value of it will hold fairly well.

 

[350 Feet]

Maybe you guys can answer this. For those that bought GT350s in ‘16 through ‘19 (pre Covid) did you pay much of an ADM at time of purchase? If so, that could still be skewing values today. Where as in the future that amount of ADM paid originally becomes irrelevant over time. I was just amazed how well the Shelbys seemed to hold their value, and didn’t know if the original prices paid played into that.

 

[kz]

On every sports car forum, every time a new version is released, someone posts a thread like this. How many cars are you aware of where the previous generation went up in value after an new version was released?

The Shelby American GT350 is not a "value" car, there is no concept of "worth the money" with this thing. Its for people who have the money and want the car, its not meant to be deliberated over and compared. They build the car the way they want it, and charge what it costs + profit, then you decide if you want what they're offering.

Personally I'm entirely unsurprised to see this thing cost what it does, life has gotten colossally more expensive in the last several years across the board.

Some common sense finally. Shelby American's GT350 doesn't even belong in this conversation - they made Super Snakes and some other weird creations out of S550s charging stupid money for them - if someone wants a car with some plastic pieces and a supercharger from them, they sure can get it. It's such miniscule percentage of the market that it's completely irrelevant from perspective of S550 prices.

And there are so many S550 prices that their values will rise just as much as that generation Camrys.

 

[JudSam]

S550s are already much more desirable, compared to the S650s. The main reason why the S650 is the worst selling Mustang in history is the lack tuning (it is not the price).

As far as the most desirable S550, it’s just any specialty Mustang for the right buyer. Personally, the TR-3160 Mach 1 HP is at the top of the list, only rivaled by a GT500.

 

[Inthehighdesert]

This is interesting. I have a 69 fastback that I've been sitting on to start. Have a couple coyote packages as well. Having a hard time putting the coyote in the car. Just don't care for the look or want to cut it up to do it. Revology builds a nice car, not sure 250k nice though.

I admit I’d love a NA Revology ‘68 fastback with a coyote and my TR-3160 along side.

Having owned a ‘67 and ‘68 fastbacks, I would buy one of those in a heartbeat. Unfortunately I would have to sell my house and wife to make it happen. No way am I selling the house…

 

[Inthehighdesert]

I bought one, reg in 18, paid msrp. Sold it for what I paid in 19. Bought a reg 20 in the dead of winter in 19. Bought it about 4k back of msrp. Sold it for 10k more then I paid in 22. Bought my HER as covid was starting. Paid a 7k adm. Almost sold it for 160k when prices were nuts, but decided I'd regret it. Paid an adm on my HECftp as well. On those two cars zero regrets on the adm's, especially the R.

Maybe you guys can answer this. For those that bought GT350s in ‘16 through ‘19 (pre Covid) did you pay much of an ADM at time of purchase? If so, that could still be skewing values today. Where as in the future that amount of ADM paid originally becomes irrelevant over time. I was just amazed how well the Shelbys seemed to hold their value, and didn’t know if the original prices paid played into that.

 

[IPOGT]

This is interesting. I have a 69 fastback that I've been sitting on to start. Have a couple coyote packages as well. Having a hard time putting the coyote in the car. Just don't care for the look or want to cut it up to do it. Revology builds a nice car, not sure 250k nice though.

I was at Barrett Jackson and two were there. a 1967 GT500 and a white “GT” 1968 FB. Guys, this was stunning. Porsche build quality. Almost odd to see a 1968 Mustang finished to that level down to the door thunk upon closing. Yes, the door handles are lit in blue LED. The interior is stunning IMO. The seat quality is amazing. Kind of like 401A seats but much thicker higher quality leather.

 

[RNM]

The S650s come at a steep price and they aren't much different than S550s besides a facelifted exterior and a different interior.

S550s are tunable while the S650s are not. If the S650s remain untunable, I can definitely see the S550 appreciate in value.

 

[Crew4991]

S550s are tunable while the S650s are not. If the S650s remain untunable, I can definitely see the S550 appreciate in value.

Correct! Who knows if Ford will unlock that.

If they do at some point, then the S650s should be more desirable among enthusiasts and S550 should follow the typical depreciation path.

If they don't, then the enthusiast crowd [typically more willing to pay more] will likely move away from the S650 platform and look towards the S550 or other cars.

I personally think Ford will unlock the S650 to be tuned at some point. Might take years, but I think it is likely.

 

[Inthehighdesert]

I haven't kept up with the 650 stuff. The likes of Whipple, Lund, etc. aren't getting in to the computer at all? How are they adjusting for the new setups?

Correct! Who knows if Ford will unlock that.

If they do at some point, then the S650s should be more desirable among enthusiasts and S550 should follow the typical depreciation path.

If they don't, then the enthusiast crowd [typically more willing to pay more] will likely move away from the S650 platform and look towards the S550 or other cars.

I personally think Ford will unlock the S650 to be tuned at some point. Might take years, but I think it is likely.

 

[350 Feet]

I bought one, reg in 18, paid msrp. Sold it for what I paid in 19. Bought a reg 20 in the dead of winter in 19. Bought it about 4k back of msrp. Sold it for 10k more then I paid in 22. Bought my HER as covid was starting. Paid a 7k adm. Almost sold it for 160k when prices were nuts, but decided I'd regret it. Paid an adm on my HECftp as well. On those two cars zero regrets on the adm's, especially the R.

Sir, nice cars! You are a fortunate sole.
I think your point is well taken; special is special, and it has little bearing on the value of ordinary.
Historically, Vettes held their value best of all American cars. I am glad to see the shifting sands here. There is this completely different stigma to Vettes.
IMHO, Corvettes have been purchased more by professionals, and Mustangs of all flavors more by blue collar.
Though I have done pretty well in business, it is still a construction company. I can just never see myself in a Vette, as much as I appreciate the engineering and performance. I will never own a Hawaiian shirt nor a gold chain. The raw nature on the 350 appeals to my sole and my work ethic.
My son will graduate from University in a couple of years. With luck the Shelby can bring him some smiles.

 

[MAGS1]

I haven't kept up with the 650 stuff. The likes of Whipple, Lund, etc. aren't getting in to the computer at all? How are they adjusting for the new setups?

Ford controls it for Whipple, Procharger, Roush. Lund can’t get in nor any other custom tuner

 

[Crew4991]

On every sports car forum, every time a new version is released, someone posts a thread like this. How many cars are you aware of where the previous generation went up in value after an new version was released?

The Shelby American GT350 is not a "value" car, there is no concept of "worth the money" with this thing. Its for people who have the money and want the car, its not meant to be deliberated over and compared. They build the car the way they want it, and charge what it costs + profit, then you decide if you want what they're offering.

Personally I'm entirely unsurprised to see this thing cost what it does, life has gotten colossally more expensive in the last several years across the board.

I completely agree with you! Although the Mercedes C63 AMG comes to mind. LOL
Going from a V8 to a 4 cyl didn't please the AMG crowd! That was a rare mistake though.

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