S550 values to increase?

[Inthehighdesert]

Funny, I’m in construction to. Previous other business’s. I have pretty much the same sentiment as you toward the corvettes. There are a few variants I could see owning, but I don’t think it’d be at the expense of my mustangs. The C8 ZO6 is an amazing car as is the ZR1, and previous Grand Sports.

Sir, nice cars! You are a fortunate sole.
I think your point is well taken; special is special, and it has little bearing on the value of ordinary.
Historically, Vettes held their value best of all American cars. I am glad to see the shifting sands here. There is this completely different stigma to Vettes.
IMHO, Corvettes have been purchased more by professionals, and Mustangs of all flavors more by blue collar.
Though I have done pretty well in business, it is still a construction company. I can just never see myself in a Vette, as much as I appreciate the engineering and performance. I will never own a Hawaiian shirt nor a gold chain. The raw nature on the 350 appeals to my sole and my work ethic.
My son will graduate from University in a couple of years. With luck the Shelby can bring him some smiles.

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[Inthehighdesert]

Interesting. Haven’t talked to my buddy that’s well known for Mustangs here in a while. Did my previous stuff. Curious to see his take and if there’s any solutions coming.

Ford controls it for Whipple, Procharger, Roush. Lund can’t get in nor any other custom tuner

 

[S550HPP]

S550s are already much more desirable, compared to the S650s. The main reason why the S650 is the worst selling Mustang in history is the lack tuning (it is not the price).

As far as the most desirable S550, it’s just any specialty Mustang for the right buyer. Personally, the TR-3160 Mach 1 HP is at the top of the list, only rivaled by a GT500.

And the pedestrian screen inside just like every other generic cheap car.....at least they could have done a door to door sweeping screen like some cars..still lame though strips all character from interior saving zero money in the process.

 

[sk47]

Hello; Just did a read of this thread. Do not have a sense of future prices for used Mustangs, especially the specialty models. So much depends on how many buyers exist who are willing to pay up.
A point left out of the discussion, to me, is the cost of upkeep. Once out of factory warranty the cost of engine rebuilds and/or replacement falls to the owners. Same for other expensive components. Seems I read or saw somewhere a GT 350 engine was somewhere around $30 K. Not sure of this. Point being the new buyers are going to have to factor in such potential costs on top of purchase price.
For folks with Ferrari type extra money who happen to prefer mustangs such will not be a problem. For less well-off folks but not struggling financially, the story may be some different. The desire to have a specialty version may be tempered by overall costs. It is one thing to be able to pay top dollar and yet another to be able to afford the upkeep.

I am curious if somehow Mustangs will become "collector" cars with prices out of reach for many. I just do not see such a thing happening for all Mustangs. For some special models yes. For most models such is hard to figure.

As Stephen King has written many times, The world has moved on. The tradition of getting older example of a nice car cheaper may not apply to Mustangs. The idea of getting a ten-year-old model cheap enough so as to be able to afford to modify it may be over for most of us.

There is another active thread in which the op is looking for a low mile's example of a special model of a Mustang. He has in mind a price such ought to be had for. At first, I thought his price range seemed fair but thought the chance of the expected low mileage would be the sticking point. But seems that OP is become more criticized for the hoped for price.

For my desire, I decided to forgo the specialty models and have been shopping for a base GT with a manual. Even such has jumped in price since covid. So, I am unlikely to be competing with most of you for the specialty models. I had hoped the more mundane models of the S550 would be in a price range were needing to replace an engine or some such would not be too much to justify.

This thread is an interesting read. I have gleaned some information as to which models have built in value parts compared to those with dolled up base models. Thanks to all.

 

[350 Feet]

Hello; Just did a read of this thread. Do not have a sense of future prices for used Mustangs, especially the specialty models. So much depends on how many buyers exist who are willing to pay up.
A point left out of the discussion, to me, is the cost of upkeep. Once out of factory warranty the cost of engine rebuilds and/or replacement falls to the owners. Same for other expensive components. Seems I read or saw somewhere a GT 350 engine was somewhere around $30 K. Not sure of this. Point being the new buyers are going to have to factor in such potential costs on top of purchase price.
For folks with Ferrari type extra money who happen to prefer mustangs such will not be a problem. For less well-off folks but not struggling financially, the story may be some different. The desire to have a specialty version may be tempered by overall costs. It is one thing to be able to pay top dollar and yet another to be able to afford the upkeep.

I am curious if somehow Mustangs will become "collector" cars with prices out of reach for many. I just do not see such a thing happening for all Mustangs. For some special models yes. For most models such is hard to figure.

As Stephen King has written many times, The world has moved on. The tradition of getting older example of a nice car cheaper may not apply to Mustangs. The idea of getting a ten-year-old model cheap enough so as to be able to afford to modify it may be over for most of us.

There is another active thread in which the op is looking for a low mile's example of a special model of a Mustang. He has in mind a price such ought to be had for. At first, I thought his price range seemed fair but thought the chance of the expected low mileage would be the sticking point. But seems that OP is become more criticized for the hoped for price.

For my desire, I decided to forgo the specialty models and have been shopping for a base GT with a manual. Even such has jumped in price since covid. So, I am unlikely to be competing with most of you for the specialty models. I had hoped the more mundane models of the S550 would be in a price range were needing to replace an engine or some such would not be too much to justify.

This thread is an interesting read. I have gleaned some information as to which models have built in value parts compared to those with dolled up base models. Thanks to all.

Sir, you bring up an interesting point. Where does this ultimately end up?
Perhaps the “average” person can squirrel away enough savings to repair a coyote engine. Few can truly afford to replace a voodoo. So if those with the specialty mustangs merely keep buying extended warranties for a few thousand, are we doing much more than “renting” our cars?
I would hazard to guess that most of the simpler models are DD. The specialty cars might see weekend duty or just occasional use. This would classify as a toy in my book.
Toys are okay, and actually mentally healthy. But like you stated, beware of the long-term cost of the “toy”.
Life ain’t cheap, and whatever you have, you can’t take it with you when you’re gone.
My dad used to say that you never see a hearse pulling a U-Haul. So, values aside, I say Giddyup!
Everytime I drive my Stang I mentally sing that song that Ken Miles sang in the Ford vs. Ferrari movie;
H-A-P-P-Y…

 

[sk47]

Sir, you bring up an interesting point. Where does this ultimately end up?
Perhaps the “average” person can squirrel away enough savings to repair a coyote engine. Few can truly afford to replace a voodoo. So if those with the specialty mustangs merely keep buying extended warranties for a few thousand, are we doing much more than “renting” our cars?
I would hazard to guess that most of the simpler models are DD. The specialty cars might see weekend duty or just occasional use. This would classify as a toy in my book.
Toys are okay, and actually mentally healthy. But like you stated, beware of the long-term cost of the “toy”.
Life ain’t cheap, and whatever you have, you can’t take it with you when you’re gone.
My dad used to say that you never see a hearse pulling a U-Haul. So, values aside, I say Giddyup!
Everytime I drive my Stang I mentally sing that song that Ken Miles sang in the Ford vs. Ferrari movie;
H-A-P-P-Y…

Hello; Whatever car i get will be on the road. I am retired so will not do DD duty but will get rained on and be used year-round. (Not in snow to be sure, but in cold weather)
When the Base Mustangs got an IRS on the rear my interest in having one revived. Better handling on the common two lane twisty roads in my area. I want a car I can drive and enjoy. I did get the "big eye" over a used GT350 with low miles several years ago. I offered what I thought was a decent offer for a used car, $50K. It was turned down. Even $50K seemed a lot back a few years ago. I do not know how that would have worked out as i would have put some miles on it.

 

[S550HPP]

IMO if investing better to buy RACE stock unless super rich and need portable assets like cars, art, etc that fly under tax dept radar when structured properly internationally.

While women often cite handbags as investment pieces unless it's Hermes it's just a depreciating asset like 99.9% of cars.

Doesn't matter if our car maintains or even appreciates slightly thanks to all the anti free and fair trade countries and 2 year delays to relocate supply chain all pushing prices up in the near term, because cost to replace is higher so it's a wash at best.

Maybe the GF or wife can be convinced it's an investment but just cover it with PPF and drive it like you stole it!!

 

[EoDevil]

If zoomers dancing on TikTok with lip filler is any indication of potential future buyers, good luck fellas.

 

[robvas]

A point left out of the discussion, to me, is the cost of upkeep. Once out of factory warranty the cost of engine rebuilds and/or replacement falls to the owners. Same for other expensive components. Seems I read or saw somewhere a GT 350 engine was somewhere around $30 K. Not sure of this. Point being the new buyers are going to have to factor in such potential costs on top of purchase price.

This is a good point. Even without the expensive engine replacement, it's other things.

People post oil changes that are over $200 for their GT350

A new set of tires for a Dark Horse are over $2,000 installed

Chevrolet charges $700-$1,100 for a transmission service on the C8 Corvette that needs to be done on a regular schedule

Want to mad your car?

Magnaflow sells a $4,699 Mustang catback

Sure, these aren't cheap cars, and you have to pay to play, but they aren't $200,000 Ferraris.

 

[sk47]

Sure, these aren't cheap cars, and you have to pay to play, but they aren't $200,000 Ferraris.

For folks with Ferrari type extra money who happen to prefer mustangs such will not be a problem. For less well-off folks but not struggling financially, the story may be some different. The

Hello; No, so far, most factory Mustangs only distantly approach Ferrari prices. There are some non -Ford factory companies building older model (1968) Mustangs from all new sheet metal and all new components which can cost $250K.

Part of this threads issue is the ongoing sell price of older Factory Mustangs. With the question will S550 values increase? I do see used Ferraris listed for sale at similar prices to those suggested for some older Mustangs.

To be sure, my point about Ferrari type money was more about the ongoing upkeep costs of these special cars as i have come to understand it. The prices in your post, many of which are news to me, do illustrate such even if at less than Ferrari prices. But I do agree the Mustangs are not exactly at Ferrari prices yet. Even so that a used Mustang that can bring at or over $100 K is a big deal from my perspective.

Was trying to illustrate a point and did not do such well. I did offer a dealer $50K back a while for a year old GT350 with low miles on a spur of the moment impulse. I was turned down of course. Why a $50K limit? Such was more a personal thing. Such a car would have been all for fun and would be neither practical nor in any way justified as something needed. A bucket list sort of impulse and $50K just was the upper level in my mind at the time. Not a considered study of average sale prices. I could have offered more but could only stand $50K.

Anyway, I decided to try for a lesser Mustang I would feel more comfortable driving around. The irony now being the monies printed and thrown out with abandon during Covid and latter even more monies printed for the green & EV agendas has inflated prices to the point where even the lesser models can be over $50K. I still have the funds but have not gotten a bucket list car. My loss.

 

[526 HRSE]

My son's friend bought a 650 and he said that he tuned it. He works for a dealership. I don't know if it's true or not. Regardless, he knows i think his friend's 650 is a POS.

 

[robvas]

My son's friend bought a 650 and he said that he tuned it. He works for a dealership. I don't know if it's true or not. Regardless, he knows i think his friend's 650 is a POS.

Can't tune them so he's full of it. Unless him "tuning it" is buying a Whipple or Roush and installing the tune that comes with it.

 

[526 HRSE]

Can't tune them so he's full of it. Unless him "tuning it" is buying a Whipple or Roush and installing the tune that comes with it.

That's what I told him but I'm not positive if anyone found a work around so I didn't belittle him much. Lol

 

[cerbomark]

Dark Horse interior I saw on a FS add.... really? they can keep those IMO.

 

[S550HPP]

Dark Horse interior I saw on a FS add.... really? they can keep those IMO.

No kidding what a product design disaster good news is rental.companies will buy at cost then flood market with used cheap S650.

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