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How well will Mach 1's hold their value?

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For my setup (Premium non-HP with A10, optional wheels, Elite, nav):
2023 Mach 1 - $63,230
2024 Dark Horse - $64,755

Just a small price evolution, just like it is just a small design change.

My 2021 Mach 1 price was $58,390. Now I know how the 2018-2019 guys feel, haha.
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I forget which article stated this, but Ed Krenz specifically stated that software encryption has been added to the S650 to prevent unauthorized mods. And the S650 is FNV. It is extremely unlikely that any hacking or tampering will be allowed. Ford is attempting to create an ecosystem for profit and control (like Apple and Tesla).

The S550 is the last Mustang you will fully own (unless the economy or government change course). This should increase the market value of S550s in the future.

Krenz and other S650 engineers explained that the entire stack on the S650 is encrypted, including the ECU. This means that if the system detects a “break” in authentication, it will shut it down – or shut down components of the vehicle. So even if someone were to modify one of these engines, they wouldn’t be able to actually tune the car to take full advantage of it.
It was actually from Ford Authority. Interesting read, lots of people are gonna be disappointed, if they didn’t do their proper research.
 
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ICE will be saved by hydrogen. I've read an article recently that porsche managed to squeese 550hp on a hydrogen cayenne. Thing is, it needs more air to burn effectively, so porsche used bigger and more turbos to pump in air. I hope a 5l supercharger and hydro cells will become the conversion norm in 20years, and gas will last that long ...

P.s. the article ....

https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/202...-engines-nuerburgring-nordschleife-29401.html
Yes, I also know toyota and yamaha have a working prototype engine in a car that pushes that same amount of power as well. I honestly feel this is going to be the replacement to our current fossil fuel burning engines and not this EV garbage.
 

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For my setup (Premium non-HP with A10, optional wheels, Elite, nav):
2023 Mach 1 - $63,230
2024 Dark Horse - $64,755

Just a small price evolution, just like it is just a small design change.

My 2021 Mach 1 price was $58,390. Now I know how the 2018-2019 guys feel, haha.
I definitely priced out a DH the way I'd want it and it was more than 73K for one which is more than 10k more than what my M1 cost me.
 

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@Vertex But that's with painted stripes (5k) and carbon fiber wheels, right? You can't really count and compare with those. That could have been bought for Mach 1 in aftermarket as well for heavy coin.

Edit: Nope, just HP, Appearance Package and Recaros and it's $72.2k.

I guess Mach 1 Premium Elite HP FJG with Recaros could have been 62-63 in 2021, so yeah, +10k here.
 
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They only made around 75 Roushs for the 22 year. So the limited number always contributes to value.
 

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I'm trying to nail a leftover Mach 1 for 10k off (17%) MSRP. So is that a 'sign' of holding value? Or an indication demand has dried up in a high-rate environment further compounded by S650 now available to order?
 

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@Vertex But that's with painted stripes (5k) and carbon fiber wheels, right? You can't really count and compare with those. That could have been bought for Mach 1 in aftermarket as well for heavy coin.

Edit: Nope, just HP, Appearance Package and Recaros and it's $72.2k.

I guess Mach 1 Premium Elite HP FJG with Recaros could have been 62-63 in 2021, so yeah, +10k here.
Yea the optional CF wheels aren't on there yet and are also not something I'd want to spend the money on anyway. Blew my mind how much more expensive the car is with minor changes to the engine and I would honestly go as far to say as minor changes to the interior with the exception of the cluster and infotainment screen functions and addition of the infotainment screen.

Exterior changes are obviously much different but can't justify any of those changes making the cost of the car really change a whole ton since it's just differently shaped metals etc.

I like the new car minus the front end and won't catch me trading my Mach 1 in and spending the extra 10k+ on a Dark Horse. I'll just put a whipple on my Mach 1 in a year or two and be way more satisfied.
 

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Yea the optional CF wheels aren't on there yet and are also not something I'd want to spend the money on anyway. Blew my mind how much more expensive the car is with minor changes to the engine and I would honestly go as far to say as minor changes to the interior with the exception of the cluster and infotainment screen functions and addition of the infotainment screen.

Exterior changes are obviously much different but can't justify any of those changes making the cost of the car really change a whole ton since it's just differently shaped metals etc.

I like the new car minus the front end and won't catch me trading my Mach 1 in and spending the extra 10k+ on a Dark Horse. I'll just put a whipple on my Mach 1 in a year or two and be way more satisfied.
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In Sept last fall, I picked up a 2023 Mach 1 non HP, with 200 miles for $59K. It was a spot on deal for me. Not sure it was high or low - just wanted the machine.
 
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The debate at the time (3 years ago) was, would they hold their value like Shelbys. Clearly, they haven't.

Wow, just realized it was my thread :crackup:
 
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If the S650 includes the Tremec in GTs, this will be a serious blow to M1 values.
Whew. We dodged a bullet there.
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