How does your dealer react to using Ceratec?

[AZ_Ryan]

@Skye

All these folks using additives... meanwhile just like you - I have no tick on either one of my two old 2016 mustangs. Shocker, right? One has 16k miles on it and the other has 74k miles. Only use 5W-30 synthetic oil that I pick up from Costco and do regular oil changes.

Crazy to think that since we go by what the manual says to do, we live without the tick? Hmm...

I don't think you are up to speed on the typewriter tick. It's primarily on the 3rd gen coyotes, and isn't caused by Ceratec. Rather, Ceratec is being used to stop it.

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[Dave2013M3]

It's obvious by looking at it when you change the oil.

If you only use 1/3 of a bottle it doesn't really change the look. That's all it takes to get rid of the tick for my car

 

[Rapid Red]

Chain driven, OHC, alum blocks all tick (are noisy) keep chasing your tails.

Even iron block roller motors do it.

 

[ing3nious]

This thread is a riot. There’s folks saying that a tech at the dealer is inspecting your old oil and “knowing” you are using some additive, documenting it to void your warranty. And then there’s others saying the oil techs DGAF and are so lazy/ care more about TikTok that they wouldn’t trust them to touch their car. So which is it?

1 bottle of ceratec is 3% volume of the 10 qr fill. I’m sure it doesn’t stand out when some 20yr old has the oil catch pan hoisted up and I’m damn sure they aren’t inspecting your oil without you drawing attention to it.

FWIW I used a bottle, it seemed to quiet things down with no bad side effects. I’m not religious about using it every oil change.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

If you only use 1/3 of a bottle it doesn't really change the look. That's all it takes to get rid of the tick for my car

Good to know. Thanks.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

Chain driven, OHC, alum blocks all tick (are noisy) keep chasing your tails.

Even iron block roller motors do it.

No one is chasing their tail. As stated in my original post, this isnt a typewriter tick bitch thread.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

This thread is a riot. There’s folks saying that a tech at the dealer is inspecting your old oil and “knowing” you are using some additive, documenting it to void your warranty. And then there’s others saying the oil techs DGAF and are so lazy/ care more about TikTok that they wouldn’t trust them to touch their car. So which is it?

1 bottle of ceratec is 3% volume of the 10 qr fill. I’m sure it doesn’t stand out when some 20yr old has the oil catch pan hoisted up and I’m damn sure they aren’t inspecting your oil without you drawing attention to it.

FWIW I used a bottle, it seemed to quiet things down with no bad side effects. I’m not religious about using it every oil change.

I don't think any one said there was a tech testing oil and voiding warranties. Lol

 

[ing3nious]

@AZ_Ryan

No. You can see the color change in the oil when you drain it. No lab needed

If they find Ceratec in your oil this early, it cause issues with future warranty claims. The problem may be minor or serious.

Here are two examples implying the techs are studying the waste oil and in one case testing it.

 

[SheepDog]

@AZ_Ryan

Here are two examples implying the techs are studying the waste oil and in one case testing it.

I wasn't implying that they test it. I was stating that you can see the additive in the oil because it looks different, but rest assured the kids changing your oil don't give a shit. A technician isn't changing your oil at the dealership, a 1/2 baked teenager who gets paid minimum wage is.

 

[Daryl333]

At an oil change the dealer tech saw the cloudy oil right away and thought it was coolant. But I told them it was Cera tec and told them why. No more was said about it. I've got a feeling they didn't want to get into the B'BQ tic and 2 K rattle discussion.

 

[ing3nious]

I wasn't implying that they test it. I was stating that you can see the additive in the oil because it looks different, but rest assured the kids changing your oil don't give a shit. A technician isn't changing your oil at the dealership, a 1/2 baked teenager who gets paid minimum wage is.

I could see if you are paying attention to the oil you might see it’s different (debatable but sure). But then you’re saying the stoned teen isn’t paying attention, so which is it? They are paying close enough attention to flag you for using an additive or are they so distracted that they can barely be trusted to refill your oil? Regardless, no oil tech is logging that your car has a warranty voiding additive in the system. Is there any proof of this or just speculation?

The other quote implies that the dealer is testing oil.

 

[SheepDog]

I could see if you are paying attention to the oil you might see it’s different (debatable but sure). But then you’re saying the stoned teen isn’t paying attention, so which is it? They are paying close enough attention to flag you for using an additive or are they so distracted that they can barely be trusted to refill your oil? Regardless, no oil tech is logging that your car has a warranty voiding additive in the system. Is there any proof of this or just speculation?

The other quote implies that the dealer is testing oil.

My proof is that I was an ASE certified Master tech for 15 years and I know damn well that the kids changing your oil dont care if it comes out green, red, purple, or orange juice. Unless coolant comes pouring out of the crankcase, they aren't going to be concerned with a slightly off-color engine oil.

It isn't debatable- If there is Ceratec mixed in with the engine oil, you can see the color difference when you drain it. The point is, they don't care, and yes, most of them can barely be trusted to do the job correctly in the first place.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

@AZ_Ryan

Here are two examples implying the techs are studying the waste oil and in one case testing it.

One guys conjecture. I'm still waiting to hear an example of that actually happening at a dealer.

As far as the color change....that's literally why I started the thread. To see if dealers are making an issue of it. I am however, glad to hear it's not that noticeable if you don't use very much Ceratec.

 

[ing3nious]

My proof is that I was an ASE certified Master tech for 15 years and I know damn well that the kids changing your oil dont care if it comes out green, red, purple, or orange juice. Unless coolant comes pouring out of the crankcase, they aren't going to be concerned with a slightly off-color engine oil.

It isn't debatable- If there is Ceratec mixed in with the engine oil, you can see the color difference when you drain it. The point is, they don't care, and yes, most of them can barely be trusted to do the job correctly in the first place.

In your 15 yrs as a Master Tech did you often void warranty over suspected additives? Or did no one care and this is whole tread can be summarized as “the dealer DNGAF about ceratec”?

 

[SheepDog]

In your 15 yrs as a Master Tech did you often void warranty over suspected additives? Or did no one care and this is whole tread can be summarized as “the dealer DNGAF about ceratec”?

Never did. It is basically impossible to prove that an additive caused a failure, and although I generally put most additives in a "snake oil" designation, Ceratec does seem to have some merit in regards to the BBQ tick, however I think it is just masking the resonance of the sound, not actually treating the problem but I'll let the forum warriors debate over that.

If a dealership Service manager really wants to be a dick, they could send the oil out for analysis if a car came in with an engine failure of some sort, in an effort to void the warranty, but they would have to prove that the additive was the cause of the failure

Engine failures were pretty much always due to lack of maintenance. Leaks that were not addressed and caused low oil levels. Other mechanical failures from manufacturing flaws. Fuel delivery issues causing lean conditions. Overheating issues etc.

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