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OEM's are 10.5" in the front, the rest is correct. Yup, it looks great and works great too, on the street and on the track too (just casual fun for me). I'm very happy with these wheels and tyres.
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OEM's are 10.5" in the front, the rest is correct. Yup, it looks great and works great too, on the street and on the track too (just casual fun for me). I'm very happy with these wheels and tyres.
Yes I’d agree, as I said your set up is pretty sweet,
So I’m probably gonna mimic your wheel configuration. I will try the same tire fitment on the 10 1/2 inch front rims with 285/35/19 and the 11 inch rear rims with 305 or 315/35/19,
I’m hoping that I will loose the poke and get the same look that you have in your picture, by the way, was your car a mach 1 handling package out of factory or did you put the wheels on yourself,
 

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The bit narrower tyre in the front (285) doesn't really different from the regular one (305), rubber is flexible and it stretches and adapts on the rim, in direct comparison the difference will be only few milimeters of tread more and the poke is definitely very similar for both. More camber helps to align the top but the meat still pokes out, lip moldings are inevitable imo. Pricey, but the do look great and help with rocks no doubt. The 10" replica would work great in this regard, not requiring the lip moldings, allowing 285-305. What I don't like about the replicas is the glossy colour, the OEM HP wheels have amazing matte anthracite colour, it complements the other matte parts of the cars well.

Mine is standard export car for EU market, Handling Pack wasn't an option here. I'm freak for wheels so I immediately fell in love with them and just had to import them once FP released the pack for spectacular $1000 from Levittown. I dreamt of 300+ balloons since PP2 came out in 2018 😁 And as it happens, I got the car with PP2-style 9.5/10" wheels, I kept those as a winter set for October-March, not exactly needed as I go out only on nice dry days but the car needs to be ready for anything.

You have many options regarding wheels, and with those wheels, you have many options for tyres and tyre widths. I only mentioned what worked for me, I spent days thinking this through and going for something not entirely common. One thing, stay away from PS4S 295/35 R19 tyres, they're for Mercedes 10" rims and look stretched on those 10.5/11" wheels. 305/35 has 0.3" taller sidewall over 285/35 diameter difference is 1.5% to 255/40 so acceptable too, it should work fine without rubbing issues, but I don't have this confirmed. I wanted inch wider than normal but not that much poke (even if the difference is small). Though same tyre size could be rotated.

PSS 305/35 R19 should be easily obtainable as it's OEM size for earlier GT350 and some Camaros etc. They're fully compatible with PS4S, pretty comparable too, on dry perhaps even wee bit better (who could tell though), PS4S are a bit better on wet but that's not that important for me.

There's Continentals ContiSportContact 295/35 R19 with tread width even bit more than PS4S 305/30, really great tire overall as well and good fit on those wheels.

Many options to choose from. I went back to first post and see you already got the Cup2's, I'd stick to them until you wear them out, which will be fast. They throw rocks like crazy so lip moldings are necessity.
 
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The bit narrower tyre in the front (285) doesn't really different from the regular one (305), rubber is flexible and it stretches and adapts on the rim, in direct comparison the difference will be only few milimeters of tread more and the poke is definitely very similar for both. More camber helps to align the top but the meat still pokes out, lip moldings are inevitable imo. Pricey, but the do look great and help with rocks no doubt. The 10" replica would work great in this regard, not requiring the lip moldings, allowing 285-305. What I don't like about the replicas is the glossy colour, the OEM HP wheels have amazing matte anthracite colour, it complements the other matte parts of the cars well.

Mine is standard export car for EU market, Handling Pack wasn't an option here. I'm freak for wheels so I immediately fell in love with them and just had to import them once FP released the pack for spectacular $1000 from Levittown. I dreamt of 300+ balloons since PP2 came out in 2018 😁 And as it happens, I got the car with PP2-style 9.5/10" wheels, I kept those as a winter set for October-March, not exactly needed as I go out only on nice dry days but the car needs to be ready for anything.

You have many options regarding wheels, and with those wheels, you have many options for tyres and tyre widths. I only mentioned what worked for me, I spent days thinking this through and going for something not entirely common. One thing, stay away from PS4S 295/35 R19 tyres, they're for Mercedes 10" rims and look stretched on those 10.5/11" wheels. 305/35 has 0.3" taller sidewall over 285/35 diameter difference is 1.5% to 255/40 so acceptable too, it should work fine without rubbing issues, but I don't have this confirmed. I wanted inch wider than normal but not that much poke (even if the difference is small). Though same tyre size could be rotated.

PSS 305/35 R19 should be easily obtainable as it's OEM size for earlier GT350 and some Camaros etc. They're fully compatible with PS4S, pretty comparable too, on dry perhaps even wee bit better (who could tell though), PS4S are a bit better on wet but that's not that important for me.

There's Continentals ContiSportContact 295/35 R19 with tread width even bit more than PS4S 305/30, really great tire overall as well and good fit on those wheels.

Many options to choose from. I went back to first post and see you already got the Cup2's, I'd stick to them until you wear them out, which will be fast. They throw rocks like crazy so lip moldings are necessity.
Thanks for the information I really appreciate all of your recommendations and options, here is my dilemma I just purchased this vehicle brand new but I did not want to wait the six months for the handling package model so I went ahead and bought the base model and bought all the add-ons myself, I spent a total of $5500 Canadian on the tires and rims alone,305/30/19 f 315/30/19 r, 10.5 and 11, I didn’t anticipate that the front tires would poke out so much, and that the 30 profile would create a noticeable gap between the tire and wheel well, now I’m thinking should I just replace the two front tires for a smaller width tire in addition to the lip mouldings or should I just replace the tires and rims all around with replicas 10 inch front and 11 inch rear rims and replace tires to 35 profile,
I really like what you have with 285 tire on the 10 1/2 front rim and the 305 tire on the 11 rear rim, ideally, I would like the perfectly flush look, but I could deal with a tiny poke, given that I know the mouldings will disguise it
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Go economically about it when you already have it. Add the lip moldings, run tyres down, then change them. Cup 2's won't last that long, 6-10k miles apparently.
 

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If you lower that car at all you will have issues. I had 305 fronts and had a little pine that was covered when I added the fender mounding. I thought I was good but with the dual rate springs .5” drop I had occassional rubbing. I swapped to 285/30 tires and all the issues vanished. I have a thread about it on this forum if you care to search for it.
 

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In case it helps: 20x10 wheels with PS4S @ 275/30. No poke at all. Could def go to 285's (would go with conti extreme contact 2 for that size) with still no poke and no lip thingymabob. IMO, it's about getting the wheels made with the appropriate offset for the look/amount of tuck that one wants.

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Hey guys, just installed my handling package wheels on my non handling package Mach 1 I’m still waiting on the front splitter, rear spoiler, and wheel lip mouldings,
I’m looking for honest opinions on the amount of poke on the front tires, it looks a little much to me. I was wondering if the wheel lip moulding will give them a more tucked in appearance.
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Would'a could'a bought SVE MHP1 wheel set has a 10" front that give more clearance and you can still run the HP 305 fronts and their wheels save like 12lbs each, and are stronger than the OEM. That's what I have on my HP. The wheel HP moldings just give even more stone protection. link
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Hey guys, just installed my handling package wheels on my non handling package Mach 1 I’m still waiting on the front splitter, rear spoiler, and wheel lip mouldings,
I’m looking for honest opinions on the amount of poke on the front tires, it looks a little much to me. I was wondering if the wheel lip moulding will give them a more tucked in appearance.
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Your front tires do not look like Sport Cup 2s. That's why they poke out so much. However, it does look like you've got SC2's on the rears. The SC2's won't sit out so far in the front as the sidewall isn't as square.
 
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Your front tires do not look like Sport Cup 2s. That's why they poke out so much. However, it does look like you've got SC2's on the rears. The SC2's won't sit out so far in the front as the sidewall isn't as square.
So you’re telling me they poke out so much because they’re not sport cup 2,s lol, well fact of the matter is my friend. They are sport cup 2,s and that’s why they stick out so much.
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So you’re telling me they poke out so much because they’re not sport cup 2,s lol, well fact of the matter is my friend. They are sport cup 2,s and that’s why they stick out so much.
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To add even more craziness, if you get a different spec of the same tire it can cause a little more poke. For my rear end I made sure I got the Ferrari spec (K1) pilot sport 4S so I could have the 35 profile height of a 295 with the same tread width of a standard 305. K1 spec also was slightly lighter.

see below pic of a comparison with the amount of poke (Nissan GTR in pic). Notice the amount of extra camber that was required to keep it under the guard:whew:

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So you’re telling me they poke out so much because they’re not sport cup 2,s lol, well fact of the matter is my friend. They are sport cup 2,s and that’s why they stick out so much.
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That's what I'm telling you. But, like @Ben James said, the Mach 1 must have a very different spec of SC2s than the type that come on a GT350R, or a PP2. They don't look like those at all. Way shorter side wall and let tread. But I'm glad you got a good laugh. 😁
 

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Hi, I hope it's not too late on this thread.

I recently moved to Germany and for the conversion/acceptance process they want my PP2 wheels to fit under the body. I am thinking of using these on my PP2 to tuck the tires in.

Can you tell me how much the lip sits outside the body and does it cover the tire poke completely ?
 

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The lip is around 1.5 cm wide in the top section. It covers the tread but the sidewall just barely, looking from the top. From the side, rubber is clearly still visible. This is with 285/335 in the front on 10.5" HP front rim (with 305 it'd be poking a bit more).

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Hi, I hope it's not too late on this thread.

I recently moved to Germany and for the conversion/acceptance process they want my PP2 wheels to fit under the body. I am thinking of using these on my PP2 to tuck the tires in.

Can you tell me how much the lip sits outside the body and does it cover the tire poke completely ?
I can’t tell you exactly how much the front mouldings will cover, roughly quarter inch to half inch, but it definitely will hide the tire poke. It will disguise it very nicely.


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