Smart to wait on getting a S650 GT?

[Cory S]

OP. Keep your ‘23. Enjoy it for 15+ years.

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[ice445]

IMO it's always bad to buy a first year of anything, even though this is just a refresh.

 

[Bikeman315]

IMO it's always bad to buy a first year of anything, even though this is just a refresh.

It’s all about luck. Put 51k trouble free miles on my 15’ EB in under four years.

 

[MAGS1]

A local dealer has several. I went and test drove one. I could get used to the outside looks but I cannot stand the dash. The Ipod I will never like. I do not like navigating screens to activate things and it just looks like an after thought the way they stuck it to the dash. I also do not like the Cameroish dash styling and the low mounted A/C vents.

So S650 is a hard no for me. If I need something new again it will be a gas powered F150.

Did you drive a base or a premium? I’ve heard the premium screen (all one screen instead of 2) is a lot better. I’m going to look at a couple tomorrow just to see them in person. A base and a premium with the bronze package.

 

[Shelbeast]

What did Ford "fix" on the 18-23s???? Or the 15-17s? Or previous Mustangs?

The only thing I've heard of Ford "fixing" in their production, was the aluminum shift forks in the MT82.

Other than that, they never change anything. They don't do yearly fixes or running production changes to fix issues.

Added coolers to 2017 GT350. Improved engine in 2019. Better cup holder in 2015.

 

[illtal]

I'll wait for a special edition one that ain't a dark horse. Part of the reason these cars are modding. Tinkering with the things you like to make it fit your own style. Electro shocks won't do that. That locked ecu won't do for me.... I'm definitely not paying an ADM for any car.

 

[K4fxd]

It won't stay locked long. Too much money in tuning mustangs. Several companies will put a team of hackers on it.

 

[MAGS1]

It won't stay locked long. Too much money in tuning mustangs. Several companies will put a team of hackers on it.

Don’t forget it’s fully networked so it will phone home to Ford that it’s been messed with. Whether Ford does anything has yet to be determined but you’d have to figure out a way to bypass that too. Which is why Ford is giving the keys to some aftermarket companies like RTR and Whipple.

So you can mod, but it’s with someone Ford has approved. So it will be more conservative since I’m assuming it will come with some kind of warranty .

 

[EFI]

I think the smart move is to keep my 23 and wait a couple more years for Ford to get any issues fixed on the new S650

Not only that, but financially it would be best to wait a bit. Right now I imagine most dealers will be asking MSRP or more for the first models on the showroom for. In a year or two barring any major economic shift, you should be able to get the same car for thousands below MSRP.

 

[young at heart]

There are things to think about for sure but I don’t think they rise to being smart or not so smart. It’s more about preferences and various things other posters in this thread have wisely mentioned already.

The one thing I personally would give zero thought to is the so-called “first year problems” meme that so many folks subscribe to. Sure, it happens occasionally (so don’t start listing examples) but it’s largely an old wive’s tale with no consistent basis. Ford, like all manufacturers, does the best job it can working out kinks every year. And if they miss a big one, that’s what recalls are for.

BTW, I’d personally hang on to the ‘23.

 

[KingKona]

It won't stay locked long. Too much money in tuning mustangs. Several companies will put a team of hackers on it.

Corvettes are still locked.

 

[K4fxd]

Corvettes are still locked.

ummm, no

 

[MyStang]

[QUOTE="KingKona,
No, Ford doesn't make any real changes
[/QUOTE]
Not sure I agree with this statement. Engineering is always making changes. parts numbers change JXXXZ-5325-A-B-C-D and so on...

 

[MAGS1]

I haven’t watched the HP Tuners video yet but I recall another company hacked into the C8. And from what I recall, they found there wasn’t much to be gained from just a tune (which I say is a good thing that the manufacturer isn’t leaving any performance on the table from factory). So you’d have to go FBO, FI, etc to get more. The fact they did it is good but why haven’t we seen more C8 builds now (other than some YouTubers that have an in with GM, ahem Amelia Hartford, ahem). Honest question, I don’t keep up with the C8 world as it’s not my cup of tea after driving a couple.

 

[KingKona]

ummm, no

I would define "hacking" a car to tune it, as pure software changes. Unless it's pure software being changed via the OBDII port, an ECU is "locked".

No one has hacked the C8's ECU software, it's still locked. HP has to make physical hardware changes to the ECU to be able to allow for tuning a C8. C8 owners have to remove the ECM, send it in to HP Tuners, wait for days, and then re-install it. And then have a 3rd party tune it. It's taking serious work to get into them.

And the cost starts at $1,500.00 That's just to have HP make the hardware changes to the ECU. Then there's $400 in licensing "credits" that must be purchased. THEN you have to buy their interface device for another $400. And there's some cable you have to buy separately.

And then...finally.....it can be tuned.

AFAIC, they're still locked.

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