Mach 1 vs GT350... anyone driven back to back.

[Pardsy]

I thought I remember hearing somewhere that Ford would not allow a back-to-back comparo be done with the Mach 1 and GT500 because the Mach 1 was almost as fast when equipped with the Handling Pack.

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[WD Pro]

I thought I remember hearing somewhere that Ford would not allow a back-to-back comparo be done with the Mach 1 and GT500 because the Mach 1 was almost as fast when equipped with the Handling Pack.

A few laps of McDonalds maybe, but let the 500 stretch it’s legs and it would walk away from the Mach with ease …

WD

 

[mldonovan82]

I thought I remember hearing somewhere that Ford would not allow a back-to-back comparo be done with the Mach 1 and GT500 because the Mach 1 was almost as fast when equipped with the Handling Pack.

You joking? Lol

I’m guessing you are because the HP offers no speed benefit. At least not in a straight line. On a track with the right driver- sure.

 

[mldonovan82]

A few laps of McDonalds maybe, but let the 500 stretch it’s legs and it would walk away from the Mach with ease …

WD

Yea, that’s not a fair fight. Two different weight classes.

 

[AvalancheSVT]

You joking? Lol

I’m guessing you are because the HP offers no speed benefit. At least not in a straight line. On a track with the right driver- sure.

there's a great video of a dude in a BRZ being slowed down by a guy in a C8 vette because the C8 guy kept passing in the straights and being slower in the corners.

weight ruins everything and handling matters. there's only so much tire and power you can throw at the problem before all you see are diminished returns.

a few hundred lbs more on an already porky chassis matters a lot.
it seems plausible.

 

[mldonovan82]

there's a great video of a dude in a BRZ being slowed down by a guy in a C8 vette because the C8 guy kept passing in the straights and being slower in the corners.

weight ruins everything and handling matters. there's only so much tire and power you can throw at the problem before all you see are diminished returns.

a few hundred lbs more on an already porky chassis matters a lot.
it seems plausible.

I was comparing a M1 without HP to one with.

 

[AvalancheSVT]

I was comparing a M1 without HP to one with.

but you were replying to a guy talking about gt500 vs m1...

 

[mldonovan82]

but you were replying to a guy talking about gt500 vs m1...

Right, gotcha. I guess I would be surprised in that case. Pleasantly surprised since I’m $58K invented into an M1.

 

[GT350 deuce]

I thought I remember hearing somewhere that Ford would not allow a back-to-back comparo be done with the Mach 1 and GT500 because the Mach 1 was almost as fast when equipped with the Handling Pack.

you likely meant the GT350 and Mach 1... track wise, these two are pretty much hand in hand

GT500 blows away both on the track, not even close. you're talking nearly double the power in a car just as, if not more, capable

 

[Pardsy]

you likely meant the GT350 and Mach 1... track wise, these two are pretty much hand in hand

GT500 blows away both on the track, not even close. you're talking nearly double the power in a car just as, if not more, capable

no, I wasn’t. Certainly both best the Mach in a straight line but in the corners, it’s close. Here are the numbers…

https://www.motortrend.com/features/ford-mustang-mach-1-shelby-gt350-gt500-test-data/amp/

 

[GT350 deuce]

no, I wasn’t. Certainly both best the Mach in a straight line but in the corners, it’s close. Here are the numbers…

https://www.motortrend.com/features/ford-mustang-mach-1-shelby-gt350-gt500-test-data/amp/

wonder how it would compare if the gt500 had the cup 2s on it

good article

 

[Pardsy]

wonder how it would compare if the gt500 had the cup 2s on it

good article

Remains a very tight margin. They compare the numbers with a GT350R which came with the Cup 2’s.

 

[RobZ71LM7]

Remains a very tight margin. They compare the numbers with a GT350R which came with the Cup 2’s.

And the 1LE is faster than any of the mustangs listed.

 

[TruckandRoll]

I have driven both (on street and road course) and currently own a 2021 Mach 1. The mannerisms of the GT350 are what pushed me to buy the Mach 1. That being said I did not get the Handling Package. I suspect the Handling Package Mach drives a lot like the Shelby (the HP Mach 1 was faster around VIR than the outgoing GT350R).

What decided it for me was the fact the GT350 was just too darty on the street. On the freeway it was pulling towards every crack and crevice. On a race track it was scary fast and precise but if you planned to drive it on the street it was far too much to be livable. For me the Mach 1 without the habdling package is the best of both worlds and extremely competent on a road course.

 

[illtal]

Hey guys,

So looking to get a Mach 1 before they are fully sold out... what got me interested in one is that my buddy has a 2017 350, I loved everything about it but mostly the planted feel of the suspension when driving and the tranny which is the Tremec for both =). I have driven other "standard" GTs before without magnetic suspension and they feel floaty and not as stable plus the ride is not much softer than the 350, they just dont feel special at all.

I dont have Mach 1s locally to test drive, but since Ive heard the suspension bits of the 350 and Mach 1 are exactly the same down to the bushings... can I expect the same "planted feel" driving dynamics in the Mach 1...? If the the ride is similar to a standard GT without mag shocks, I prefer to pass and get a Supra Manual.


Thanks!
JC

I find it quite interesting that people cross shop the Z and the "new supra" with the Mustang.
The Mustang GT is more of a grand touring sports car. It's supposed to be big and comfy. You won't get "big" in either of those two.

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