CERATEC in BOOSTED stangs w BBQ tick?

[DougS550]

Thanks for reply!!! Oh wow!!! Great to hear. I bought my 2 bottles today, gonna drop them in tomorrow. Damn tick is driving me crazy..
Arent u supposed to run 5W50 w boost? Or is 5w40 good enough? Roush calls for 5w50.. but that could all be bullshit.
How long have you been running ceratec?

Thanks Anthony

I always wondered that.
Roush and other SC companies set their SC clearances to use a heavier weight oil such as 5wx50.
BUT: Ford designs their engines to use 5w20-30. To me looking at the old racing days. When racing teams supercharged an engine, the engine clearances, main, Rods ETC where also set to use the same heavy weight oil. Correct me if I am wrong But, Ford does not design two sets of engines for Mustang 5.0, one for N/A engines and one specifically for running Roush FI superchargers? But no one seems to want to address this? Good Luck

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[engineermike]

The roush 5.0 is the exact same spec long block as the regular base gt. If you look at clearance specs on a modern supercharged engine, you might be surprised that they are the same as na. Increasing clearance actually increases contact stresses (think “line contact”).

 

[monte87]

European blend has additives to help it hold higher loads like from a supercharger and additives to last longer before needing to change the oil. But it’s the extra load carrying that I’m interested in

Thanks for reply. Appreciate it. Where can I pick up European blend?
Thanks Anthony

 

[monte87]

On a side note, I recognize your screen name Anthony from back in the FvC days and our Lincolns.... small world.

Oh wow!!! Man cool deal.. long time? Heck yeah FVC def a small world. How ya been?
Thanks Anthony

 

[WildHorse]

What makes you guys think a european spec oil, sold in North America, will have the same specs as oil sold in europe ? And really all it is that Euro specs require 15k oil changes. Your fine with just N. American spec oil IMO.

 

[engineermike]

What makes you guys think a european spec oil, sold in North America, will have the same specs as oil sold in europe ?

You can look at the specs on the websites and the ones I’ve checked do not sell different euro oils in Europe and NA. I’ve heard that some Castrol blends made in Europe are different base oil but the pennzoil euro is the same. In fact, pennzoil lists euro 5w30 on the us website that you can’t practically obtain here but is fairly common there.

And really all it is that Euro specs require 15k oil changes. Your fine with just N. American spec oil IMO.

Longevity is part of it but not the only difference. They do over-base it and have some other test requirements to ensure long life, but there are also higher minimums for HTHS and ZDDP concentration. For instance, no 5w20 can meet the euro ACEA A3/B4 “high performance” spec because the HTHS is too low. Even a current 5w30 API SP can’t meet A3/B4 because the ZDDP is too low in concentration. In anything lower than a 5w40, ACEA A3/B4 and API SP are mutually exclusive and ACEA is geared toward more protection. Castrol and pennzoil make 5w30’s in both SP and euro A3/B4 and the euro blends have more ZDDP and higher viscosity, which protect the engine better under higher loads and stresses. I’d wager the A3/B4 would work better in timing chains and when GDI is used just due to the higher HTHS.

You see where API is going by limiting ZDDP for cat converter protection and having fuel economy minimums as well. Engine protection is taking a back seat to emissions and fuel economy. And unlike ACEA, API does not have different specs for high performance applications and typical commuters.

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