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Hey guys.

Do the Mustang E Force 2300 and 2650 blower share same belt part numbers/sizes or is the pulley height slightly different between them?
I’ve seen the below pic floating around here but not sure if it only related to the 2650.
My 2300 with stock 3.0 pulley has the belt wearing out and I’d like to replace it.
Assuming Gates K060812HD would be ok?
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Cool... Where did you find this chart?
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Hey guys.

Do the Mustang E Force 2300 and 2650 blower share same belt part numbers/sizes or is the pulley height slightly different between them?
I’ve seen the below pic floating around here but not sure if it only related to the 2650.
My 2300 with stock 3.0 pulley has the belt wearing out and I’d like to replace it.
Assuming Gates K060812HD would be ok?
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you can't read the belt size on the old belt? The length would depend on the type of FEAD bracket you have. I'm not sure but I think there was some revisions along the way. Anyhow you could just buy two or three belts and take back the ones that don't fit. My suggestion would be to take it in and match up a size. Personally I couldn't run an 82" on my 2650 I went up to a 82.75" and I have a slightly smaller one {82.56")for my 3.15" griptec pulley.
 

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Id imagine the 6 rib 3.0” on a 2650 and 2300 are the same though? I’m just asking if the belt chart I showed would apply to either the 2300 or 2650. Not sure if the pulley sits higher or lower etc between the models
Not to hijack and for what it is worth I have a spare brand new eight rebuilt that I got as an extra with my 2650 stage two kit it is yours for the taking if you can pick up locally Northern California or you want to pay for shipping
 

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I got the methanol reinstalled different spot due to the adapter being too small, Got the spacers installed and they definitely work. The heat doesn't cause the IAT2 to rise as fast. 3.15 pulley also installed
 

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I got the methanol reinstalled different spot due to the adapter being too small, Got the spacers installed and they definitely work. The heat doesn't cause the IAT2 to rise as fast. 3.15 pulley also installed
Got some pics?
 

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Yes. Will post today
So there will be several posts. First of all I pulley down to 3.15". More on that later. first the spacers. I have ambients around +30F. That's about the efficiency of the stock HE. However after installing this plastic, on a cold engine it takes quite a while to get to +30F (I'm talking about 10+ mins). Also in stop and go traffic on a warm engine, heat soaking is about the same. But recovery is a lot quicker. Iats can get back to +30F fairly quickly.
It does make the SC sit noticably higher in the engine bay. I did upgrade my belt to the RPM belt 82.53" I think if anyone is interested I'll get the pn for them. The unit does still sit under the hood without any modifications.
Regarding the 3.15 pulley. I'm on 93 for now. Tuned by Lund. They advised me to take off the 3.15 because at certain RPMs there is 0 knockR. There was never any +knockR but higher in the rev range there is -knockR. For the uninitiated. KnockR is Timing retard due to knocking. + Numbers are retarded timing by whatever the number is and vice versa for - knockR.
Basically, I'm at the edge of 93 octane's effectiveness. But with the methanol on I get +7 degrees of ignition advance throw most of the rev range. So I was told not to let it run dry. I'm using a 25gph nozzle. It literally sucking this stuff down pretty quickly so I have adjust what psi this engages at. The car pulls very hard with this stuff.
I drove the car approximately 1500 miles in the last two days. I went through 6-7 gallons of methanol. I do have a "heavy" go foot.
Placement of the nozzle is now located in the old aspirator hole on the elbow. The aspirator is now gone. Single vaccum hose on the brake booster.

It's dark I'll do some detailed pix in the am. I may put up the methanol log later as well too.

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So there will be several posts. First of all I pulley down to 3.15". More on that later. first the spacers. I have ambients around +30F. That's about the efficiency of the stock HE. However after installing this plastic, on a cold engine it takes quite a while to get to +30F (I'm talking about 10+ mins). Also in stop and go traffic on a warm engine, heat soaking is about the same. But recovery is a lot quicker. Iats can get back to +30F fairly quickly.
It does make the SC sit noticably higher in the engine bay. I did upgrade my belt to the RPM belt 82.53" I think if anyone is interested I'll get the pn for them. The unit does still sit under the hood without any modifications.
Regarding the 3.15 pulley. I'm on 93 for now. Tuned by Lund. They advised me to take off the 3.15 because at certain RPMs there is 0 knockR. There was never any +knockR but higher in the rev range there is -knockR. For the uninitiated. KnockR is Timing retard due to knocking. + Numbers are retarded timing by whatever the number is and vice versa for - knockR.
Basically, I'm at the edge of 93 octane's effectiveness. But with the methanol on I get +7 degrees of ignition advance throw most of the rev range. So I was told not to let it run dry. I'm using a 25gph nozzle. It literally sucking this stuff down pretty quickly so I have adjust what psi this engages at. The car pulls very hard with this stuff.
I drove the car approximately 1500 miles in the last two days. I went through 6-7 gallons of methanol. I do have a "heavy" go foot.
Placement of the nozzle is now located in the old aspirator hole on the elbow. The aspirator is now gone. Single vaccum hose on the brake booster.

It's dark I'll do some detailed pix in the am. I may put up the methanol log later as well too.

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For some reason I thought you were spraying into a spacer just after the TB. I didn't realize you had a spacer under the SC assembly or that you would spray before the TB... Unfortunately for me, with my daily driver here in SoCal there is no 93 available and I don't want to go to E85. I'm still looking for a [realitvely] safe way to NOT cut timing due to the increased IAT levels...
 

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Curious. Just how high are your IATs? I’ve thought about doing meth injection many times but haven’t yet. I’m not having any IAT issues whatsoever though. Of course, I’m in Canada, but I’ve had it to the track in 100* VERY high humidity and even then IATs were still in check and nowhere near enough to pull timing. I run 94 octane pump (highest we have here). No e85 in Canada unless it’s by the barrel, which for me is just too much of an inconvenience. Maybe if my car was a more of a track car, but mine is basically a weekend fun cruising car that only gets to the track on rentals when the tech guys are a little more lenient with a convertible running good.
 

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Curious. Just how high are your IATs? I’ve thought about doing meth injection many times but haven’t yet. I’m not having any IAT issues whatsoever though. Of course, I’m in Canada, but I’ve had it to the track in 100* VERY high humidity and even then IATs were still in check and nowhere near enough to pull timing. I run 94 octane pump (highest we have here). No e85 in Canada unless it’s by the barrel, which for me is just too much of an inconvenience. Maybe if my car was a more of a track car, but mine is basically a weekend fun cruising car that only gets to the track on rentals when the tech guys are a little more lenient with a convertible running good.
Typically it reads 20-30 degrees F over ambient on the dash. And it is hot and dry here and only 'california' 91 octane available unless I run really expensive fuel, which isn't practical for a daily driver.
 

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Ok. So basically that’s what I see as well. 20* over ambient. But it goes down during my run. Usually ends up 10* over ambient give or take depending on exactly what ambient is. Same as my coolant temp. Stock thermostat but usually starts at 192* and ends the run closer to mid 180s. Is this similar to what yous are seeing?
 

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Ok. So basically that’s what I see as well. 20* over ambient. But it goes down during my run. Usually ends up 10* over ambient give or take depending on exactly what ambient is. Same as my coolant temp. Stock thermostat but usually starts at 192* and ends the run closer to mid 180s. Is this similar to what yous are seeing?
I haven't been monitoring coolant temp as I usually watch head temp. I'll watch and let you know.
 

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I know head temp is real and measured. The coolant temp is calculated. The nGauge monitors coolant. Head temp is usually around 7-12 different I find on mine.
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