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It was just a joke whether you think its okay or not makes no difference to me. And yes I would be a Democrat and a good one. I was a conservative leaning person when I was younger but have become much more liberal as I got older. Kind of like how Trump went from being a Democrat to a Republican. People change I guess.......
I guess it's a joke, I don't have an opinion on whether it's right or wrong just that it does not help in getting someone to see your side of the story. What has changed in your life that personal attacks and attacks against the character are ok when you want to make a point? I am here as your friend, we can talk.
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/..._245F1beKJUZ5rDIBnOQ618BqKUw90j_RjXer--ll_i00

Ukrainian foreign minister Vadym Prystaiko said Thursday that U.S. Ambassador to the E.U. Gordon Sondland had “never” linked U.S. aid to Ukrainian investigations of the 2016 elections or the Biden’s role in stopping a probe of Burisma.

Prystaiko spoke the day after the first public hearings in the House Intelligence Committee as part of the “impeachment inquiry,” where two witnesses said they came to believe there had been such a link — though only some time after Politico reported on August 28 that aid had been held up by the Trump administration.


One of the witnesses, Chargé d’affaires Bill Taylor, introduced new evidence that a staffer told him recently that he overheard Sondland speaking to President Donald Trump the day after his July 25 phone call with Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky, discussing “investigations.” The staffer also told Taylor that Sondland said that Trump was more interested in investigations than anything else.....
Liberal Reply: He's a foreigner, what would he know!
 

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No, but involving young people in the sport today make keep it alive for the next generation. I know I have had my grandson interested in cars already.
Okay yeah I agree with you there but I also think car enthusiasts even among us older folks has waned a lot too. I'm the only guy on my street with a fast & sleek car & probably look I'm having my midlife crisis to my neighbours and perhaps I am lol. One guy near me loves cars ( he had a 2010 GT while I had my Camaro SS) but he is driving a 4 banger now.
 

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I guess it's a joke, I don't have an opinion on whether it's right or wrong just that it does not help in getting someone to see your side of the story. What has changed in your life that personal attacks and attacks against the character are ok when you want to make a point? I am here as your friend, we can talk.
It was intended as fun though perhaps came off the wrong way. Nothing is off in my life & I agree we can talk. I also understand we could never likely agree on much but that's fine by me. That doesn't mean I would not be willing to discuss things knowing someone doesn't share my views. In the end none of us are right or wrong we just have opinions about many things that differ.
 

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It was intended as fun though perhaps came off the wrong way. Nothing is off in my life & I agree we can talk. I also understand we could never likely agree on much but that's fine by me. That doesn't mean I would not be willing to discuss things knowing someone doesn't share my views. In the end none of us are right or wrong we just have opinions about many things that differ.
When you understand that climate change is about power, not climate, and the ability to wield said power. You begin to understand that with the left it ALWAYS about gaining more and more ability to control EVERY facet of your life. That my Canadian fellow mustang driver is a Orwellian Vision worth FIGHTING AGAINST.

Look at how china is using tech to generate a "score" for every single Chinese in the country. You can see that level of monitoring creeping into Europe. Liberty being removed one little nick at a time, it's for your own good of course.
 

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When you understand that climate change is about power, not climate, and the ability to wield said power. You begin to understand that with the left it ALWAYS about gaining more and more ability to control EVERY facet of your life. That my Canadian fellow mustang driver is a Orwellian Vision worth FIGHTING AGAINST.

Look at how china is using tech to generate a "score" for every single Chinese in the country. You can see that level of monitoring creeping into Europe. Liberty being removed one little nick at a time, it's for your own good of course.
I can't understand something that I don't believe. I believe climate change is real. I think it is very complex & not easily addressed. I also don't think replacing cars with electric ones powered by coal fired plants (acid rain comes back to my mind) is a viable alternative either. You don't believe in it fair enough. If you use anything Google you are being observed pretty often as it is. And don't get me started on Facebook...... Of which I don't use either. Those are corporations monitoring your habits not left or right leaning governments.
 

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Asking a foreign government to look into corruption or specific instances of corruption involving any US citizen is well within the realm of the executive branch. Just remember if the Biden's weren't stealing US Aid to Ukraine through the natural gas company this whole thing would be a non issue.
Trump's mistake in his dirt digging scheme was to mention the Bidens. He saw an opportunity and jumped on it, apparently not seeing how simply soliciting for help to dig up dirt on political opponents is against the law. He tried to cloak it all under "investigating corruption".

Trump has been scheming his whole life, but you'd think he'd realize doing it as POTUS would be heavily scrutinized, but apparently not. I believe Trump and some of his admin and Rudy believe they are above the law. Rudy comes across as a big schemer too - he's a train wreck, or is it a gernade instead.

It will be interesting to see if damning evidence comes out in the hearings.
 

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It was intended as fun though perhaps came off the wrong way. Nothing is off in my life & I agree we can talk. I also understand we could never likely agree on much but that's fine by me. That doesn't mean I would not be willing to discuss things knowing someone doesn't share my views. In the end none of us are right or wrong we just have opinions about many things that differ.
Like I said, I am here to help you. What bad thing happened in your life that made you a liberal? Maybe we can talk through it and get you think normal again. You like mustangs so you can't be all bad. Like Luke said to Darth Vader, I can sense the good in you.
 

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Trump's mistake in his dirt digging scheme was to mention the Bidens. He saw an opportunity and jumped on it, apparently not seeing how simply soliciting for help to dig up dirt on political opponents is against the law. He trid to cloakbit all under "investigating corruption".

Trump has been scheming his whole life, but you'd think he'd realize doing it as POTUS would be heavily scrutinized, but apparently not. I believe Trump and some of his admin and Rudy believe they are above the law. Rudy comes across as a big schemer too.
Well, unfortunately for everyone here foreign policy is the job of the executive branch and there is speculation that the known corruption in Ukraine is involving an American citizen. It is Trump's job, whether you like it or not, to get to the bottom of it. Being that Biden is running for President makes getting to the bottom of it even more important. He just spent over 2 years with the dems poking up his butthole looking for links to Russia and was even accused of being a Russian agent himself. Then you have Biden on TV, bragging about withholding foreign aid to Ukraine unless they fired the prosecutor investigating his son's company. I can send you to a quote directly from Biden of you want. Besides the blatant hypocrisy, they are trying to impeach a President over something he obviously didn't do, there is no actual link to any quid pro quo and the only proof they have is what someone heard someone who heard someone say something. Ridiculous. Trump is certainly not perfect, but for once, we have someone in the white house that is trying to help America.
 

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Oooh, good one, I think you meant Indoctrination.
Haha Doc! I have watched Conservatism evolve in your country and mine and it is becoming predominantly for white folks many with a lot of anti-immigrant, protectionist views. The Republican Party is nearly all white guys how is that a reflection of the population?

Its really becoming something different and rather abhorrent to me. No different than your view on liberalism I suspect. Can I ask you this. Did you agree with Trump banning Muslim's? I sure as Hell didn't.
 

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I would have to say education.
Insufficient cynicism.

I perhaps have an unfair advantage in that I worked with weather models day to day for over 20 years. When the (multiple) daily models can't even verify 12 hours out and climo guys tell you theirs is good 10, 20 and 50 years out, LOL. We do not understand the heat budget of the planet, if you don't understand that, how the hell can you make a model that nothing more than garbage in/ garbage out.
 

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Haha Doc! I have watched Conservatism evolve in your country and mine and it is becoming predominantly for white folks many with a lot of anti-immigrant, protectionist views. Its really becoming something different and rather abhorrent to me. No different than your view on liberalism I suspect. Can I ask you this. Did you agree with Trump banning all Muslim's? I sure as Hell didn't.
Can you show me where Trump wanted to ban all Muslims, if you can find something from Trump that shows he wants to ban ALL muslims I will gladly agree with you, if you are blowing this out of proportion and he never wanted to ban ALL muslims I expect you to man up and say you were wrong and I'm sorry President Trump.
 

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Haha Doc! I have watched Conservatism evolve in your country and mine and it is becoming predominantly for white folks many with a lot of anti-immigrant, protectionist views. Its really becoming something different and rather abhorrent to me. No different than your view on liberalism I suspect. Can I ask you this. Did you agree with Trump banning all Muslim's? I sure as Hell didn't.
He didn't say ban all moslems, he said you better damn well vet people who have NO cultural touchstones with modern western culture. Who in fact have a religious/political system with Islam that makes it incredibly difficult to integrate into ANY culture not already Islamic.
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