Who will swap for the new 7.3 V8!

[SheepDog]

If you really wanted big block power, why not the other 7.3? Powerstroke S550 FTW.

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[tokuzumi]

That would be fun, but isn't the powerstroke shoe-horned into the F250?

 

[SheepDog]

That would be fun, but isn't the powerstroke shoe-horned into the F250?

It certainly is but I think length-wise there is more room in the Mustang than the truck. Again, with enough money and time anything can be done.

 

[Big Boss]

Not going to lie, an LS Miata would be so fun and terrifying to drive.

Also an expensive swap if you pay someone to do it. There is a place in Colorado I believe that does it. It's like 50K to do the swap, and they beef up all the other components of the car. Oh and that 50K doesn't include the car lol

 

[SheepDog]

And then there is this:

 

[SheepDog]

Not going to lie, an LS Miata would be so fun and terrifying to drive.

Also an expensive swap if you pay someone to do it. There is a place in Colorado I believe that does it. It's like 50K to do the swap, and they beef up all the other components of the car. Oh and that 50K doesn't include the car lol

Good thing the car can be had for 2k

 

[Maggneto]

I'm fairly certain that one or two people have already stated that putting a truck engine in a mustang couldn't possibly result in a faster vehicle. It's a truck engine, it will never work!

The 5.0 comes in different configurations for Mustang and F150.

https://lmr.com/products/what-makes-a-coyote-f150-engine-different

They share many the same components but are setup differently for performance vs light duty trucks. There is a Mustang 5.0 and an F150 5.0, but they are still both 5.0.

Therefore, F150 5.0 is a much better option since it is a shared platform with the Mustang and would require far less effort than the 7.3 and would yield much better results.

The 7.3 IS NOT a shared platform, and is designed and setup for a single purpose, HEAVY DUTY TRUCK applications. This means it is a dedicated truck engine and would SUCK COMPLETE ASS in a performance car. How do I know the 7.3 will suck ass in a Mustang, the head of gas engines at Ford says so. And why does the head of gas engines at Ford say the engine will suck ass in a Mustang you ask, because the 7.3 is designed for HEAVY DUTY TRUCK applications.

Do you really not understand the difference?

 

[millhouse]

The 5.0 comes in different configurations for Mustang and F150.

https://lmr.com/products/what-makes-a-coyote-f150-engine-different

They share many the same components but are setup differently for performance vs light duty trucks. There is a Mustang 5.0 and an F150 5.0, but they are still both 5.0.

Therefore, F150 5.0 is a much better option since it is a shared platform with the Mustang and would require far less effort than the 7.3 and would yield much better results.

The 7.3 IS NOT a shared platform, and is designed and setup for a single purpose, HEAVY DUTY TRUCK applications. This means it is a dedicated truck engine and would SUCK COMPLETE ASS in a performance car. How do I know the 7.3 will suck ass in a Mustang, the head of gas engines at Ford says so. And why does the head of gas engines at Ford say the engine will suck ass in a Mustang you ask, because the 7.3 is designed for HEAVY DUTY TRUCK applications.

Do you really not understand the difference?

Do you really not understand that a 5.0 that was placed by an OEM into a truck from the factory is considered a truck engine? Seriously?

That 7.3 is going to support more NA and FI horsepower than the 5.0 can ever dream of. It's going to have it's place.

But Iron Block! But truck Engine! But an engineer says it's not going to fit well!

Give it a break.

 

[tokuzumi]

That 7.3 is going to support more NA and FI horsepower than the 5.0 can ever dream of.

This is making a lot of assumptions that are unknown at this point. We have no idea if any aftermarket companies are going to make real performance parts for this engine (camshafts, cylinder heads, intake manifolds). I guess we could link to another post in this thread as proof that's going to happen, but until companies like Brodix, AFR, Comp, Edelbrock, etc announce parts for this engine, any speculations about peak HP are just paper napkin discussions.

I'll be curious to see what happens once we actually start seeing these engines out on the road in actual production vehicles.

 

[Maggneto]

Do you really not understand that a 5.0 that was placed by an OEM into a truck from the factory is considered a truck engine? Seriously?

All of your posts are full of garbage with no real evidence to support it.

That 7.3 is going to support more NA and FI horsepower than the 5.0 can ever dream of.

But Iron Block! But truck Engine! But an engineer says it's not going to fit well!

Give it a break.

The 5.0 in the F150 is configured for the light truck duty and the 5.0 in the Mustang is configured for Performance. I am not sure why you are having difficulty with this concept. They are the same engine configured for different applications.

Why don't you give us a break with the 7.3 is going to rock in a Mustang bullshit.

The person with the most knowledge of the 7.3 says it will suck ass in a Mustang, it's too heavy and probably won't fit but this is not evidence? Sure sparky...

The real evidence is the bullshit assumptions you and Fatguy are spewing day in and day out.

 

[millhouse]

This is making a lot of assumptions that are unknown at this point. We have no idea if any aftermarket companies are going to make real performance parts for this engine (camshafts, cylinder heads, intake manifolds). I guess we could link to another post in this thread as proof that's going to happen, but until companies like Brodix, AFR, Comp, Edelbrock, etc announce parts for this engine, any speculations about peak HP are just paper napkin discussions.

I'll be curious to see what happens once we actually start seeing these engines out on the road in actual production vehicles.

It absolutely is making assumptions. Some of those assumptions are coming from materials and methods used (Iron block 4 bolt mains with 2 cross bolts, forged crank, Fords own admission that this engine is completely overbuilt etc.

As for aftermarket, we aren't talking about an engine designed in the 1950's. I think you're going to see damn good flowing heads and intake right out of the box.

As for peak horsepower, it's easy to calculate a range in which it would be. Chevy's 5.3L truck engine makes 67HP/L. Their 6.7L makes 67.7 HP/L. Dodge Rams 5.7L truck engine makes 69.3 HP/L. I think with a brand new, from scratch design with all of the tools at Fords disposal, their 7.3 is going to make at least 67HP/L which puts the hp right at 489HP. I wouldn't be surprised if it made more. If ford is able to squeeze 70HP/L out of the 7.3 you're looking at well over 500hp.

The 5.0 in the F150 is configured for the light truck duty and the 5.0 in the Mustang is configured for Performance. I am not sure why you are having difficulty with this concept. They are the same engine configured for different applications.

Why don't you give us a break with the 7.3 is going to rock in a Mustang bullshit.

So you're saying that it's OK to take a 5.0 engine designed for truck duty and re-configure it for small car usage, but doing the same for a 7.3 just isn't possible and that extra 100lbs is just too much for the mustang to handle? Man this is too easy.

 

[Maggneto]

It absolutely is making assumptions. Some of those assumptions are coming from materials and methods used (Iron block 4 bolt mains with 2 cross bolts, forged crank, Fords own admission that this engine is completely overbuilt etc.

As for aftermarket, we aren't talking about an engine designed in the 1950's. I think you're going to see damn good flowing heads and intake right out of the box.

As for peak horsepower, it's easy to calculate a range in which it would be. Chevy's 5.3L truck engine makes 67HP/L. Their 6.7L makes 67.7 HP/L. Dodge Rams 5.7L truck engine makes 69.3 HP/L. I think with a brand new, from scratch design with all of the tools at Fords disposal, their 7.3 is going to make at least 67HP/L which puts the hp right at 489HP. I wouldn't be surprised if it made more. If ford is able to squeeze 70HP/L out of the 7.3 you're looking at well over 500hp.



So you're saying that it's OK to take a 5.0 engine designed for truck duty and re-configure it for small car usage, but doing the same for a 7.3 just isn't possible and that extra 100lbs is just too much for the mustang to handle? Man this is too easy.

The 5.0 is found in the Mustang and F150. It is the same engine but configured differently depending on the application.

The 7.3 is not found in the F150 or Mustang because it is designed for heavy duty truck applications.

Obviously you know more than the engineers at Ford so we are all looking forward to the YouTube videos of you getting an ass whooping at the drag strip in the F250 powered Mustang.

But until that day comes why don't you shut the hell up about it.

 

[WildHorse]

What part of 'designed for heavy duty trucks' eludes you? The coyote was never designed for heavy duty trucks. Also I'd be shocked if the 7.3 made anything north of 450hp.

 

[millhouse]

The 5.0 is found in the Mustang and F150. It is the same engine but configured differently depending on the application.

The 7.3 is not found in the F150 or Mustang because it is designed for heavy duty truck applications.

Obviously you know more than the engineers at Ford so we are all looking forward to the YouTube videos of you getting an ass whooping at the drag strip in the F250 powered Mustang.

But until that day comes why don't you shut the hell up about it.

Once again, all those people that swap those 5.3L chevy truck engines into vehicles are idiots! They are truck engines. If only they were as smart as you!

N/A vs N/A, a 7.3L is going to destroy the 5.0 down the strip if used in the S550. FI vs FI, the 7.3L is going to destroty the 5.0 down the strip if used in the S550.

 

[Fatguy]

Gentlemen, gentlemen. Can’t we all just get along...

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