Who will swap for the new 7.3 V8!

[Erik427]

All these replies from those who wouldn't and can't keep forgetting that this is a thread about those who would and can.

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[Fatguy]

All these replies from those who wouldn't and can't keep forgetting that this is a thread about those who would and can.

I’m seriously thinking about it cause I’m a trucker and drive the style truckers do - low rpms - but others think they are F1 racers and then drive to Costco at 1600 rpm. It’s how they want to view themselves when it is not. The 7.3 is the real me. So the swap would be cool to me. The fact it’s a big block is the main attraction and all the juice at normal rpms. No phoney pretence in this swap!

 

[Erik427]

I’m seriously thinking about it cause I’m a trucker and drive the style truckers do - low rpms - but others think they are F1 racers and then drive to Costco at 1600 rpm. It’s how they want to view themselves when it is not. The 7.3 is the real me. So the swap would be cool to me. The fact it’s a big block is the main attraction and all the juice at normal rpms. No phoney pretence in this swap!

Not having to ring the motor all the way too redline just to achieve max power is a great thing.

Always remember, Ford beat Ferrari with a BBF.........This motor will be no different.

 

[Fatguy]

Not having to ring the motor all the way too redline just to achieve max power is a great thing.

Always remember, Ford beat Ferrari with a BBF.........This motor will be no different.

Or enough power that I will ever want...


This place is a riot! But a cinematographer I know keeps posting Instagram screen shots of Paula Abdul shooting at this very moment and keeps calling her “Paola Abdul” - too funny!!!!

 

[Norm Peterson]

But the performance does not matter as much to me and Millhouse. It’s the torque down low!

Torque down low and only torque down low is like a promise left unfulfilled. Frustrating even if your max-performance driving only happens occasionally.

Big-blocks never did appeal to me, not even "back in the day", meaning all the way back into the 1960's. Too big, too heavy relatively inefficient, rpm too limited if you cared at all about mean piston speed and what that implied. Does this 7.3 suffer by association? Probably. But you don't get to have the good associations without acknowledging the not-so-good ones.


Norm

 

[Norm Peterson]

Something to consider...a whipple supercharger adds > 100lbs over the nose of the coyote https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/how-much-weight-does-a-whipple-add-to-the-car.96945/ Unlike this 7.3 engine however, it adds it waaaay up high, negatively impacting the CG. Guess how many complaints you hear about handling from whipple owners?

How many Whipple owners care about handling at all, beyond being able to successfully negotiate 90° neighborhood intersections? How many of them even know what "handling" is?


Norm

 

[Norm Peterson]

You keep on saying this, but you fail to reailize that just because it has an iron block does not mean it's going to be a pig. No one upgrades their brakes and suspension when adding on 100+lbs worth of supercharger, fluids and inter-cooler. No one upgrades their brakes when throwing on a 700rwhp turbo kit. Why do you think the suspension and brakes are going to need to be upgraded for an extra 100-150lbs worth of engine?

Because you know if Ford was doing this in-house that the suspension and the brakes absolutely would get their share of attention.

People who do big-power mods without addressing the suspension and brakes aren't being smart by ignoring those things. At best, lucky.


Norm

 

[WildHorse]

Always remember, Ford beat Ferrari with a BBF.........This motor will be no different.

Always remember, Ford beat Ferrari (and many others) with a SBF at 24hrs of LeMans..... you're still full of shit.

1968 GT40P/1075 (Mk I)

John Wyer Automotive Engineering Ltd.

Pedro Rodriguez

Lucien Bianchi Ford 4.9 L V8
1969 GT40P/1075 (Mk I)

John Wyer Automotive Engineering Ltd.

Jacky Ickx

Jackie Oliver Ford 4.9 L V8

 

[millhouse]

How many Whipple owners care about handling at all, beyond being able to successfully negotiate 90° neighborhood intersections? How many of them even know what "handling" is?


Norm

Not many.

Because you know if Ford was doing this in-house that the suspension and the brakes absolutely would get their share of attention.

People who do big-power mods without addressing the suspension and brakes aren't being smart by ignoring those things. At best, lucky.


Norm

Absolutely correct, as they have been lambasted before (GT500) for putting inadequate brakes for a high horsepower car.

I think it's safe to say, most people that want a big block in a S550 would be just fine with the brakes as is...as most will likely only see the street and the dragstrip.

 

[Fatguy]

Sure Fatguy, everything works out in your mind.

There are no obstacles in your mind.

There are no financial restraints in your mind.

There are no time and effort issues in your mind.

The 7.3 engine is everything you want in a Mustang no matter the cost or consequences.

The reward of driving a Mustang with a 7.3 is far greater than anything you can imagine and no one will convince you otherwise.

The head of gas engines at Ford says the 7.3 will SUCK ASS in a Mustang and probably won't even fit, but that doesn't matter.

In your mind you are hearing exactly what you want to hear, the 7.3 is the perfect Mustang engine.

So when can we expect the Super Duty Mustang Cobra F250 Iron Block dream machine to be ready?

There is interest in these things or Garret at 1320 Video/ Cleetus Mcfarlane would not be doing a project passenger car with a Cummins diesel in it. Actually introduced it today but the part you guys would be interested in is when they take it for a ride and take some turns in it. They actually drive it low rpm if anyone is interested. Finally he does peel out with black smoke coming out the front and white smoke coming out the back. Who could ask for more?








I’m actually sort of pissed he did this now. If I did the swap I was going to do a short documentary on my little project. But how can you beat a Cummins with a huge stack coming out the hood with black smoke?

 

[Erik427]

7.3 swaps will be for Ford guys that are not Coyote guys and cannot stomach LS guys.

 

[bluebeastsrt]

Always remember, Ford beat Ferrari (and many others) with a SBF at 24hrs of LeMans..... you're still full of shit.

1968 GT40P/1075 (Mk I)

John Wyer Automotive Engineering Ltd.

Pedro Rodriguez

Lucien Bianchi Ford 4.9 L V8
1969 GT40P/1075 (Mk I)

John Wyer Automotive Engineering Ltd.

Jacky Ickx

Jackie Oliver Ford 4.9 L V8

Common knowledge. Well played.

On a side note. The talk about torque. Is amazing. The V6 currently in the OPs car. Is a tuff little guy. Ad a turbo. And you’ll match. A big blocks power and torque output. Without having to reinvent the wheel. Simple solution for the desired torque. And then if your worried about a little added weight. Up grade the suspension for a few hundred dollars in used GT parts. Engine & transmission swaps always sound like fun til you get into it. And gotta start cutting the car apart.

 

[Fatguy]

Stop saying unintelligent stuff like your last paragraph and you'll stop getting called out. You do not have valid talking points here. It has nothing to do with being monitized and everything to do with understanding how the world works. I feel sorry for you that you can't (don't want to) grasp that. You've never done any real science. You've never used the tools that great and brilliant people before us have created and used to understand our world and universe. Until you have, your dismissal of them will continue to be met with ridicule, of the particularly harsh kind. It's people like you who allow for or enable anti-vax movements and celebrity idiot politicians.

I’m going to walk back on any criticism of this post and instead give it a big thumbs up.


So yes, as I do advocacy in my real life, you have to give your perception by others an occasional reality check, and this is one.


Any theologian would use the same arguments to prop up religion. So it looks like you get painted with the same brush in the public’s eye. I tend to distance myself from religion to avoid arguments with religion. I didn’t say that here as I figured there was no need, but it did raise its head.

So in that sense this was a bit of a wake up call and I appreciate it!


Thank you!


So I’ll just tip toe around those issues instead of making it an all out science vs. non-science issue. If you deal on an international level you do realize much of the world operates outside science and many of those countries would surprise its own citizens. But there is no science party and it is indeed strange to see people pleading for science these days.


But whatever, optics matter, so I’ll cool it on the philosophical front...

 

[Fatguy]

I find that the 5.0L V8 fitted to my 2018 PP1 GT is a very good engine. My advice to the OP is to consider trading in his V6 for an 18+ GT V8 with the new A10 gearbox. A combination that works well together.

After all this time you now say this? BTW: How are you and the car getting along? We never did get an update. Have they fix the water leak problem? Actually I’m hoping you have it all sorted out as a GT in the UK is cool...


But back to he first suggestion. I just finished a feature length doco and a short at the end of last year. Everything is currently idle. All the talk about the trouble fitting a big Block into this Mustang I bought for business purposes anyway makes sense. All sorts of issues and problems galore to overcome. Some of the cost of the swap can be written off.


I could even videotape the typical naysayers at the start and go back afterwards. It’s more fun his way and a journey. Just buying another car does not lend itself to any of this.


Just the number of replies on the swap could be used to justify videotaping the whole thing and then putting it out there. There is interest. Anyway just buying a new car doesn’t work for me now.

 

[Maggneto]

If you think the scorn and abuse is bad now, just wait until the engine is actually released and it fails to materialize, or worst, materializes and fails.

As a troubleshooter I must also recognize the possibility that the 7.3 engine swap may someday occur, and will be the king of all drag strips and peel "oot" contents. Men and women alike will be flocking to Ford dealerships everywhere and ordering that big hunk of iron so they too can get a little piece of paradise.

So let me be the first to congratulate you on those fine achievements.

So for the sake of argument let's assume the engine swap has occurred because we have exhausted all other possibilities and there isn't enough common sense in the universe to change their minds. They apparently have a large supply of CSR (Common Sense repellent) and are not afraid to use it.

In Fatguy's head he is already driving past high schools and peeing "oot" in his Super Duty Mustang Cobra F250 Iron block dream machine and mill is winning drag races left and right, so they are beyond convincing otherwise. What Erick is talking about is anyones guess.

What could possibly go wrong?

Mill isn't going to upgrade the suspension or brakes because the V6 suspension and brakes are just fine, so he will probably end up crashing while drag racing because who really needs to stop anyway? It's not like you hit really fast speeds or anything like that right? So until Mill crashes because he can't stop his Frankenstein you can find mill winning drag races against other F250s.

Fatguy is going to get the 7.3 swap done for 10k so it doesn't look like suspension or brakes are in his future either. Until he crashes because he can't stop his Super Duty Mustang Cobra F250 Iron block dream machine, You can find him peeling "oot" in front of his house.

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