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Ask yourself this - will putting an engine that is not designed for the car end up anymore reliable? I'm betting the Ford "loose tolerance" Coyote as you call it has a higher likelihood of being reliable.


There is also the fact that I simply wanted a big block before I hung up the keys. The LS7 motor is a good alternative but if Ford sells a limited edition big block Mustang before they go all EV then I’m in... :like:
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Fatguy thinks a prototype Mustang with body changes is obvious evidence the 7.3 belongs in his Mustang.

Fatguy thinks a tweaked 2.3 ecoboost with a 20 hp boost is obvious evidence a 7.3 Mustang is imminent.

What will be the next clear indicator that the dump truck engine belongs in the Mustang?
 

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If you want to take on the 7.3L V8 swap as a project, fine. But don't act like the 5.0L Coyote is inferior to any of the options you've mentioned. If you want to do an LS swap, go ahead. Seems like you just want a push rod motor for the sake of it. Don't like the direct injection? Buy a GenII Coyote then. It's a good motor and a great platform to mod on. Lots of guys pushing big power on the stock GenII.
 
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Remember guys that it is not the idea of a big block Mustang most are against, it’s how FORD could get there that is the argument. There are only so many options now...
 

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There is also the fact that I simply wanted a big block before I hung up the keys. The LS7 motor is a good alternative but if Ford sells a limited edition big block Mustang before they go all EV then I’m in... :like:
Keep dreaming then I guess. According to that "other" forum GM already tried this with the C7 Z06. They could hit the power numbers they wanted no problem. However they could not get the new 7.0 to pass emissions which is why there is a supercharged engine in the Z06 and not NA power plant.
 

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If you want to take on the 7.3L V8 swap as a project, fine. But don't act like the 5.0L Coyote is inferior to any of the options you've mentioned. If you want to do an LS swap, go ahead. Seems like you just want a push rod motor for the sake of it. Don't like the direct injection? Buy a GenII Coyote then. It's a good motor and a great platform to mod on. Lots of guys pushing big power on the stock GenII.
Yup, I did try to by one while still on the lot and lucked out so I’m actually not a Coyote hater when it come down to it. Erick427? :crackup:
 
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Keep dreaming then I guess. According to that "other" forum GM already tried this with the C7 Z06. They could hit the power numbers they wanted no problem. However they could not get the new 7.0 to pass emissions which is why there is a supercharged engine in the Z06 and not NA power plant.


C6 Z06 would be the one for me...
 

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Remember guys that it is not the idea of a big block Mustang most are against, it’s how FORD could get there that is the argument. There are only so many options now...
Ford isn't going to get there. They don't want to. The engines are going to get smaller, not bigger. That's just a fact of following the trends. For example, we have incredibly thin smartphones today with 5G. Are we going to go back to 4G or 3G? No of course not. Are we going to go back to the "brick" car phone? No of course we won't. Same thing with any technology that advances. Emissions regulations are getting tighter and tighter. Engines are getting smaller and more efficient both from a power perspective and emissions perspective.
 

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....Going back to an iron block is a gamble many of us would take over new processes that may not have been fleshed out yet.
What if the iron block had the same PTWA coating that the Gen3 Coyote has? Then what?
 

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Ask yourself this - will putting an engine that is not designed for the car end up anymore reliable? I'm betting the Ford "loose tolerance" Coyote as you call it has a higher likelihood of being reliable.
Holy crap I've explained this over and over. He even said somewhere that he's ok with having to work on the bastardized car constantly was wasn't ok with a 5.0 that received warranty work. Most of the points about the current 5.0, how the A10 will respond, the fact that he hasn't even driven a 2015+ hard ever driven a 2018+, and reliability have been explained to him ad nauseum. He just hates the 5.0.
 

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Holy crap I've explained this over and over. He even said somewhere that he's ok with having to work on the bastardized car constantly was wasn't ok with a 5.0 that received warranty work. Most of the points about the current 5.0, how the A10 will respond, the fact that he hasn't even driven a 2015+ hard ever driven a 2018+, and reliability have been explained to him ad nauseum. He just hates the 5.0.
Right. If something goes wrong with the 5.0, it will most likely happen early on within the warranty period. Ford fixes it -- done and done. In other words, beat the hell out of it and have fun! At some point we all have to learn to let things go and have fun with it.
 

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The V6 is he only car I owned that didn’t feel nose heavy
My uber heavy all aluminum 5.0 doesn't feel nose heavy at all.
 

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Yup, I did try to by one while still on the lot and lucked out so I’m actually not a Coyote hater when it come down to it. Erick427? :crackup:
List of power you've compared favorably to the 5.0:
- Electric motor
- 3.7 NA v6
- 2.3 ecoboost
- 7.3 gas

Hmmmm....basically anything that's not a Coyote.

You've never driven Gen3 Coyote. You've never floored a Gen2 Coyote. Have you ever floored a Coyote at all? What about one with a tune? Doesn't matter because you just don't like the Coyote.

I was looking at some old car quarter mile times and it hit me....as of now, a plain old base GT Mustang is quicker and faster than arguably the fastest production car of the muscle car era: the Shelby Cobra 427. A new car with 60% more weight and 30% less cubes is faster, even without the advantage of forced induction. That just amazes me.
 
 








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