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I will probably do the same, it's not on the car yet anyways so might as well. @VooDooDaddy Did you call them? I'm not on Facebook and won't which is why I ask.
I hit them on FB this morning, and they responded within a few minutes. I was told the porting service on our manifolds is $200, and that includes the shipping charges to get the manifold back to your door.
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The porting is done with CNC machining on the plastic manifolds. Not sure what all is machined, but it's only worth a few HP. Not worth it to me unless your after every last HP.

Edit: I'm not discounting that it's an improvement, I'm simply stating it's not worth it to me. I'm saving my money for forced induction of some kind, so spending $100 here and there for a few HP at a time seems redundant.
I'm not so much interested in more HP, I am going to do this to see if porting allows the F-150 manifold to keep making power past 6.5K rpm? As indicated in the VMP manifold test that was thrown up on YouTube a few weeks ago, the F-150 manifold was making, IIRC, only 9 hp less (naturally aspirated) than the ported '18 manifold (which is nothing short of out-fucking-standing in my book), but the F-150 manifold rolls over past 6.5K rpm.

Sometime in January or February, I'm going to install a Stage II ProCharger unit on my GT, and as we know, the centrifugal SC's really shine in the higher RPM's, so maybe the porting of the F-150 manifold will not restrict the breathing capabilities of the ProCharger set-up?

Oh hell, I should probably do the porting of the manifold after I install the ProCharger and then to before/after dyno pulls to see if the porting was worth the effort/price?

I still find it somewhat hilarious that when the I gotta install the '18 intake manifold on my 2015-2017 GT craze hit, salvage yards were throwing 2015-2017 F-150 intake manifolds up on eGay, and almost giving them away. Now, if you are lucky to find a used 2015-2017 F-150 intake manifold for sale, they are selling for almost the price of the new/take-off's '18 GT intake manifold.

Too funny...
 

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One thing about VMP's testing is they didn't specify if they were using the f150 manifold from 15-17 or an 18.
 

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One thing about VMP's testing is they didn't specify if they were using the f150 manifold from 15-17 or an 18.
To me, it doesn't make any difference. I have a 2016 GT, so an '11-14 or an '18-'19 F-150 manifold won't work without a re-tune which I ain't gonna do.
 

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They did, it was a 11-14.
Can you confirm this? Because f150 didnt have a coyote until 2015 model.

To me, it doesn't make any difference. I have a 2016 GT, so an '11-14 or an '18-'19 F-150 manifold won't work without a re-tune which I ain't gonna do.
That's the thing though. No one has picked up an 18-19 f150 yet or at least hasn't said they have. I am asking because there is an obvious redesign like the mustang 18-19. No one has really confirmed if a retune or imrc pigtails are needed like the mustang gt 18-19. Hence the reason i am asking if anyone got one.
 

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Can you confirm this? Because f150 didnt have a coyote until 2015 model.

That's the thing though. No one has picked up an 18-19 f150 yet or at least hasn't said they have. I am asking because there is an obvious redesign like the mustang 18-19. No one has really confirmed if a retune or imrc pigtails are needed like the mustang gt 18-19. Hence the reason i am asking if anyone got one.
The pictures I've seen of the '18-19 F-150 intake manifold shows an IMRC solenoid arrangement (on the rear of the manifold) similar if not exactly like the set-up on the on the back of the '18-'19 GT manifold, so I feel very safe in assuming a re-tune for adaptation onto a '15-'17 GT engine would be required.

Not worth my time or money to find out, as I have the '15-'17 F-150 manifold already sitting atop my engine, and Brandon from LUND confirmed no tune adjustments were required once it was installed AND I picked up my F-150 manifold on eGay for $85, shipped.

Lastly, if the above info is correct, and the 5.0L wasn't available in the F-150 until 2015, then the owner of VMP was incorrect, but I can't really blame him if he is/was because I doubt VMP is doing many F-150 intake manifold swaps INTO Mustangs?
 

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That is the POS for the 11-14 they must have used. I'm surprised they got it to work because this whole thread has been based on the 15-17 version...
In the VMP video, I wonder if they were locking out the IMRC's on the stock GT manifold and the GT350 manifold since they were probably doing it on the '18 GT manifold?

The Boss 302, the Cobra Jet and the '11-'14 "truck" manifolds do not have IMRC's to lock out, and this would be the sensible thing to do, otherwise that manifold shootout would have taken forever because of all the tuning changes that would be required?

Thus using a '11-'14 "truck intake" would be the logical choice to use in that test versus a '15-'17 F-150 manifold?

In closing, I don't think the '15-'17 F-150 manifold would be an inferior contender among the bunch above as it has been proven by other members on this forum to give substantial improvements in mid-range torque and HP across the usable RPM band for a street car.
 

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In the VMP video, I wonder if they were locking out the IMRC's on the stock GT manifold and the GT350 manifold since they were probably doing it on the '18 GT manifold?

The Boss 302, the Cobra Jet and the '11-'14 "truck" manifolds do not have IMRC's to lock out, and this would be the sensible thing to do, otherwise that manifold shootout would have taken forever because of all the tuning changes that would be required?

Thus using a '11-'14 "truck intake" would be the logical choice to use in that test versus a '15-'17 F-150 manifold?

In closing, I don't think the '15-'17 F-150 manifold would be an inferior contender among the bunch above as it has been proven by other members on this forum to give substantial improvements in mid-range torque and HP across the usable RPM band for a street car.

*shrug*

No one is claiming the 15-17 F150 was inferior. I'm saying the 11-14 is inferior. I was simply questioning if the 18-19 F150 would be even better or not since it is still untested.
 

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...I'm saying the 11-14 is inferior...
Really?

The '11-'14 "truck intake" in the VMP video was < 9 hp down on the ported '18 GT and Cobra Jet manifolds, was almost equal to the GT350 manifold (peak numbers), produced more peak HP than the Boss 302 manifold, and made substantially more torque than everything else, especially from 2,500 to 5,500 rpm.

I understand what you are saying, and I think we are on the same sheet of music really. I'm with you; as I would hazard a guess that the '15-'17 F-150 intake manifold is just as good a performer as the '11-'14 version, but it would be nice to have some data to back that up.

At the end of the day, the data is what the data is, and there now can be no denying the F-150 intake manifold is a solid performance option for our 2015 -2017 cars; but at the end of the day I don't think it is given the proper credit it deserves and is thus overlooked because it's not "sexy" like the other manifolds, especially the Boss 302 or the Cobra Jet.

I'm gonna send off my "truck intake" to be ported, and then I'm gonna throw a ProCharger in front of it, on E85 and then let the 'bald eagles fly'!
 

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Apparently I don't know what I am looking at now that I keep trying to find a 2011-14 F150 5.0 intake. The 6.2 intake looks like a spider for sure and that is all that pops up. But now I can't find anything other then that or BOSS 302s.



EDIT:

Ok, I finally got a good picture of the 2011-2014 F150 intake. Looks just like the 2015-17 without the IMRCs. So I see what you're talking about now VooDoo.
 
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No one is claiming the 15-17 F150 was inferior. I'm saying the 11-14 is inferior. I was simply questioning if the 18-19 F150 would be even better or not since it is still untested.
The 18-19 F150’s are making 40+ more horsepower with an equivalent tune compared to the 15-17 F150’s. With only an E85 tune, 18-19 F150s are cracking the 12’s in the 1/4 mile. I think the redesign of the manifold is one of the reasons for that.

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The 18-19 F150’s are making 40+ more horsepower with an equivalent tune compared to the 15-17 F150’s. With only an E85 tune, 18-19 F150s are cracking the 12’s in the 1/4 mile. I think the redesign of the manifold is one of the reasons for that.
With the '18-'19 F-150 engines, was there a corresponding jump in compression/displacement or any improvements to the cylinder heads like with the Mustang GT 3rd gen Coyote?

If that jump in HP that the graph represents above is only down to an improved intake manifold, then I might have to go that route?

Where did you find that info?
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