July 2017 Mustang Sales

[Topnotch]

I think challenger beat them all for june and july. Not my bag, but someone must like them..

5,333 for July

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[machsmith]

I think the chally only sold 5300+ cars last month. Mustang won July easily.

Haha, im just going by what my dealer told me. Sorry for the relay of garbage info.
Maybe he was talking about his specific dealership but i could have sworn he said total.

 

[HoosierDaddy]

Yes, a dealer will slap adm on an ecoboost or a regular gt. Wow, simply wow. :frusty:

Always read sigs

 

[bluebeastsrt]

From gm authority

Chevrolet Camaro sales decreased 5.59 percent to 4,691 units

Read more: http://gmauthority.com/blog/2017/07...esults-june-2017-united-states/#ixzz4oVktwTQb

Ewww:tsk: That should have the nitwit diehards crying about fleet sales and profit per vehicles over there.:rant:

 

[1320']

Bu..bu..bu..

That's a GREAT Camaro number because it's mostly retail sales and according those stats that Medisin trots out from protected trade publications that you can't verify unless you pay for a subscription (but that's your problem) it means the Camaro is the superior car.

***CIRCLE JERK INTENSIFIES****

 

[1320']

Also..

Sales are down because nearly everyone who wants a S550..has one. The market is pretty much saturated. The S550 enjoyed nice, big fat sales numbers for the first 18-20 months because it was the hot new thing..it sizzled.

What we're seeing now is where the Camaro was in late 2012..sales stagnating to a relative proportion to the market.

 

[c-rizzle]

So:

Mustang == 6,206
Challenger = 5,333
Camaro == 4,713

To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if we see a surge in Mustang sales for August.

People on the fence about 2018's now have enough information to decide... either put in an order for 2018 (expensive) or get a 2017 hopefully with some decent price incentives from dealers.

The thing is... unless you want to get the 10-speed automatic, I don't see a big reason to "upgrade" to a 2018. +25hp is always appreciated, better manual transmission, better rubber, BUT most agree worse looks, and new engine technology is always a little bit of a risk.

I'm back & forth with what I want to do... either get a 2018 with 10-speed auto, so its a more functional vehicle in my family (wife could drive it too). When I need her 7 passenger SUV for carpool (she hates my truck and can't drive my '17 mustang). Or just get a Sporty SUV to replace my mustang.

 

[Dudie7]

They aren't down 35%.

They aren't niche vehicles either...sports car salels are expected to ebb and flow much more so than something like an SUV.

 

[BmacIL]

So:

Mustang == 6,206
Challenger = 5,333
Camaro == 4,713

To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if we see a surge in Mustang sales for August.

People on the fence about 2018's now have enough information to decide... either put in an order for 2018 (expensive) or get a 2017 hopefully with some decent price incentives from dealers.

The thing is... unless you want to get the 10-speed automatic, I don't see a big reason to "upgrade" to a 2018. +25hp is always appreciated, better manual transmission, better rubber, BUT most agree worse looks, and new engine technology is always a little bit of a risk.

I'm back & forth with what I want to do... either get a 2018 with 10-speed auto, so its a more functional vehicle in my family (wife could drive it too). When I need her 7 passenger SUV for carpool (she hates my truck and can't drive my '17 mustang). Or just get a Sporty SUV to replace my mustang.

The asterisk I'd add is that unless you want/need an auto w/ PP, there's no rational reason to trade in. The changes otherwise aren't enough to lose a bunch of money on trade, and then you have that front-end.

 

[DHG1078]

So:

Mustang == 6,206
Challenger = 5,333
Camaro == 4,713

To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if we see a surge in Mustang sales for August.

People on the fence about 2018's now have enough information to decide... either put in an order for 2018 (expensive) or get a 2017 hopefully with some decent price incentives from dealers.

The thing is... unless you want to get the 10-speed automatic, I don't see a big reason to "upgrade" to a 2018. +25hp is always appreciated, better manual transmission, better rubber, BUT most agree worse looks, and new engine technology is always a little bit of a risk.

I'm back & forth with what I want to do... either get a 2018 with 10-speed auto, so its a more functional vehicle in my family (wife could drive it too). When I need her 7 passenger SUV for carpool (she hates my truck and can't drive my '17 mustang). Or just get a Sporty SUV to replace my mustang.

The asterisk I'd add is that unless you want/need an auto w/ PP, there's no rational reason to trade in. The changes otherwise aren't enough to lose a bunch of money on trade, and then you have that front-end.

I think DI plus a bump in compression is a pretty big reason to upgrade. I think Ford's numbers are on the conservative side, and mod for mod the 2018+ will gain more power than the 2015-2017's.

I agree its not a big enough reason to upgrade if you already have an S550, but if I was in the market I would lean towards the 2018. I don't think the front end looks bad, and I think I would like it more in person. This happens with literally EVERY refresh. Everyone says its ugly at first, and 6 months later its their favorite.

 

[millhouse]

I think DI plus a bump in compression is a pretty big reason to upgrade. I think Ford's numbers are on the conservative side, and mod for mod the 2018+ will gain more power than the 2015-2017's.

I agree its not a big enough reason to upgrade if you already have an S550, but if I was in the market I would lean towards the 2018. I don't think the front end looks bad, and I think I would like it more in person. This happens with literally EVERY refresh. Everyone says its ugly at first, and 6 months later its their favorite.

Since when are Fords numbers on the conservative side...and what in the world would make you think that?

 

[1320']

I think DI plus a bump in compression is a pretty big reason to upgrade. I think Ford's numbers are on the conservative side, and mod for mod the 2018+ will gain more power than the 2015-2017's.

I agree its not a big enough reason to upgrade if you already have an S550, but if I was in the market I would lean towards the 2018. I don't think the front end looks bad, and I think I would like it more in person. This happens with literally EVERY refresh. Everyone says its ugly at first, and 6 months later its their favorite.

The number that Ford published are the SAE certified number. They're the average of repeatable runs across a collection of production motors. They're allowed to be within 1.5% of the stated figure, so anywhere between 453-467 HP.

 

[tom_sprecher]

Vehicle sales across the board are down. Plus, cheap gas is driving many buyers away from cars and back to SUV's and trucks.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/03/june-auto-sales.html

http://fortune.com/2017/04/12/auto-industry-decline/

 

[airfuel]

I agree its not a big enough reason to upgrade if you already have an S550, but if I was in the market I would lean towards the 2018. I don't think the front end looks bad, and I think I would like it more in person. This happens with literally EVERY refresh. Everyone says its ugly at first, and 6 months later its their favorite.

Exactly!
I was out to buy a 2017 last year when the news of the refresh happened. I waited, I liked, I'm waiting.
Sure the cost is up a bit, but you get more, you pay more.

 

[BmacIL]

I think DI plus a bump in compression is a pretty big reason to upgrade. I think Ford's numbers are on the conservative side, and mod for mod the 2018+ will gain more power than the 2015-2017's.

I agree its not a big enough reason to upgrade if you already have an S550, but if I was in the market I would lean towards the 2018. I don't think the front end looks bad, and I think I would like it more in person. This happens with literally EVERY refresh. Everyone says its ugly at first, and 6 months later its their favorite.

Agreed that if you don't have an S550 already, and happen to like the front-end, it is worth the wait as long as you can stomach the price increases. I've said a couple times that while I don't hate the front-end anymore like I did initially, I still feel it went backwards overall aesthetically from the 15-17.

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