Ford Racing ProCal Tune

[Seceda91]

A blown motor at 50k wouldn't be covered anyway. This doesn't change your original warranty at all, there is no voiding or anything else. Ford will not cover
a problem if it is determined the upgrade could have been the cause of the problem. In that case, the Ford Performance warranty covers the repair. Everything else is covered by your original warranty from Ford. The Ford Performance warranty only covers 3 year 36,000 miles. That is from the date you purchased the car, not the date the upgrade was installed. If you install this upgrade at 37,000, you have no warranty to start with or if you installed it 37 months after you bought the car. That's what Speedfrk was talking about, if you're close to that 3/36 point, it isn't worth paying that much to get it installed. The install would be very easy.

Think of the warranty from Ford Performance as a supplemental warranty. The part of the warranty that Ford will no longer cover (related to the drivetrain) would be covered by Ford Performance but only up to 3 years from purchase of the vehicle or 36,000 miles on odometer.

Good points.. But if you had a problem with the engine at 40k miles and trying to use the factory 5/60 powertrain warranty, wouldn't it at least look better if you had a Ford Performance tune vs a Lund/Bama tune?

I mean we can be screwed either way with Ford blaming the tune but I'm hoping with the Ford Performance tune, they are more reasonable and at least try to find the cause vs flat out denying the powertrain warranty because of a tune.

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[Dirty-EB-Chicago]

Thank you

We are about to order this from Tasca with an eta of the 30th for shipment being released. We will then have the local dealership install (quoted $150) and I will do my best to give some data.

Trying to hit the 1/4 mile this Friday for some baseline runs and then will go back after the tune to see how it improved.

The woman's car is a 2016 automatic ecoboost base. Bone stock with 4,800 miles. Just had its first oil change and we will be using 93 octane for the stock and tuned 1/4 mile passes.

I'm hoping for a 13.90 stock and a 13.25 after the tune. I'm thinking she is going to be traction limited after the tune. I've read that a 16" wheel will not fit over the rear brakes. Is this correct? I'd throw on my 16x10 ccws for a few passes if they would fit. Also a 28" tire so I'm not sure how badly that would affect gearing.

Finally someone who actually kicks ass, I owe you a beer, looking forward to numbers and such. :cheers:
to everyone still talking about the warranty read the other threads this is well covered information
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[Turbong]

Oh I thought the factory warranty was only 3/36 for the drive train. You're saying the motor is covered for longer than that? How long is the factory warranty? I bought an extended so I don't even know what the factory warranty was.

But either way, if you do this upgrade, it won't be covered at 50k. If you do it the right way, Ford Performance will cover it until 3/36 but Ford will not cover it at all once you've done the upgrade. (keeping Ford and Ford Performance separate)

Your factory limited warranty is 5/60, so yes the motor is part of that drive train warranty and would be technically covered from Ford(Yes Ford, not FR). Now as far as the extended warranty would be anyone's guess, reading print and verifying would be the only way to know for sure. I would assume it might still be eligible since the FR tune states it is not voiding your limited warranty IF INSTALLED BY DEALER or ASE for the 100th time, now you might be right it could just be for FR warranty only but it could also be so you keep your limited warranty intact. Why would you risk that just to save 100-200 on a potentially bet of losing thousands of dollars I don't get it.

 

[jbailer]

Good points.. But if you had a problem with the engine at 40k miles and trying to use the factory 5/60 powertrain warranty, wouldn't it at least look better if you had a Ford Performance tune vs a Lund/Bama tune?

I mean we can be screwed either way with Ford blaming the tune but I'm hoping with the Ford Performance tune, they are more reasonable and at least try to find the cause vs flat out denying the powertrain warranty because of a tune.

You would hope so but sadly that is not thee case. The dealer is doing work and there is cost for parts. The dealer won't do it for free. They will look to Ford but report it's been modified. Ford will say no and point to Ford Performance who will say the warranty is expired.

 

[jbailer]

Your factory limited warranty is 5/60, so yes the motor is part of that drive train warranty and would be technically covered from Ford(Yes Ford, not FR). Now as far as the extended warranty would be anyone's guess, reading print and verifying would be the only way to know for sure. I would assume it might still be eligible since the FR tune states it is not voiding your limited warranty IF INSTALLED BY DEALER or ASE for the 100th time, now you might be right it could just be for FR warranty only but it could also be so you keep your limited warranty intact. Why would you risk that just to save 100-200 on a potentially bet of losing thousands of dollars I don't get it.

Wow, that's great that Ford has increased to a 5/60! I thought it was still the 3/36 which is what I think I had on my 2006 and 2010.

Either way, once modified, if Ford attributes any failure to this performance modification they will not cover the repairs under warranty regardless of time or mileage. So if you did it correctly, Ford Performance would cover the repairs until 3/36, after that you have nothing. It's not like the factory warranty kicks back in after 3/36 up until 5/60.

 

[Turbong]

Wow, that's great that Ford has increased to a 5/60! I thought it was still the 3/36 which is what I think I had on my 2006 and 2010.

Either way, once modified, if Ford attributes any failure to this performance modification they will not cover the repairs under warranty regardless of time or mileage. So if you did it correctly, Ford Performance would cover the repairs until 3/36, after that you have nothing. It's not like the factory warranty kicks back in after 3/36 up until 5/60.

Ohh Lord! were just going in circles here lol, i'm not sure you fully under stand how warranty works, you get a a FULL standard bumper to bumper warranty when you buy the car, 3/36 it covers every square inch practically. But you have a limited 5/60 power train warranty even after the 3/36 are up. Now it clearly states in writing it will NOT VOID YOUR LIMITED WARRANTY. Can we agree on a written fact?

 

[speedfrk]

Ohh Lord! were just going in circles here lol, i'm not sure you fully under stand how warranty works, you get a a FULL standard bumper to bumper warranty when you buy the car, 3/36 it covers every square inch practically. But you have a limited 5/60 power train warranty even after the 3/36 are up. Now it clearly states in writing it will NOT VOID YOUR LIMITED WARRANTY. Can we agree on a written fact?

No we can't agree- the 3/36 is also a limited warranty. Limited just means there are things that are not covered- brake pads, clutches, damage done from racing, etc. Limited does not refer only to the 5/60. I just got off chat with FP and you can read what he said. The 5/60 is not automatically void but if the failure is tune related- engine blows up, trans craps out, etc it is only covered for 3/36. That is why it is important to have a mod friendly dealer... But they absolutely can deny coverage if they want to.

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Mike says:
Hello Curt. My name is Mike.
Mike says:
Sorry for the delay. We offer a supplemental warranty through Ford Performance for 3/36k when installed by a Ford dealer or ASE certified technician. If you have an extended warranty and there is an issue that is calibration related, it would not be covered above and beyond 3/36k. The same goes for the 5/60k base powertrain warranty.
Curt says:
Thanks, Mike- what defines "calibration related"? If you had a major engine or transmission problem at, say, 50K would it be covered under the 5/60 or would it be out of warranty due to the 3/36? This stuff is all pretty vague in your warranty coverage on your site.
Mike says:
It's taken on a situational basis, there is not a yes or no answer to your question. No aftermarket parts automatically void a warranty. Aftermarket parts void a warranty when they cause damage to a related component. If that does not happen, and something unrelated, IE-wheel bearing goes bad, the factory warranty remains in tact. As field engineers and dealers can determine, if it was related to our calibration, we cover it for 3 years/36k miles from warranty start date, if you had an engine failure attributed to a calibration beyond that, the factory warranty would not cover it.
Curt says:
OK, that helps a lot. There are a bunch of guys on the EB forum that are sitting on their hands because they aren't clear if their warranty would remain.
Mike says:
Like I said, it all depends on the situation. And the supplemental warranty portion just means that if it wasn't a base defect, we cover it under ours if it was a calibration/part related failure.

 

[sl1kn1ck]

Ok so when is someone going to at least post 0-60 times.

 

[marjen]

Let's just agree that no one knows about the warranty And just get some performance data.

 

[Fox-4]

So, I've been running the FR tune with Whipple intercooler and intake since may. It's solid stuff.

 

[GJarrett]

Let's just agree that no one knows about the warranty And just get some performance data.

Yep I agree. If no one can take the time, money and trouble to do a before&after dyno, how about using the track apps available on our vehicles to compare before&after 0-30, 0-60, etc times?

 

[Fox-4]

Yep I agree. If no one can take the time, money and trouble to do a before&after dyno, how about using the track apps available on our vehicles to compare before&after 0-30, 0-60, etc times?

If you can give me some time I can scan in my dyno sheet.

 

[Witj85]

Since may?

 

[Fox-4]

Since may?

Beta tester:ford:

 

[nolezack]

This thread is cancer...

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