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Riiigghhtt. So rather than comparing the most track intent, street-legal versions of the Camaro and Mustang, you figured the factor to focus on was the configuration of the area behind the front seats?
So your 3701lb car with no back seat and carbon fiber wheels is only 122lbs lighter then a supercharged fully loaded ZL1 1LE with a back seat. Feel better. How much closer will it be if the guy decides to take his back seat out?:headbonk:
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The current Ford Mustangs are doing well, but you have to agree there is a hole at the top of the lineup. zl1 will eat any mustang out there right now. I know Ford has something to compete - just need to get it on the market.
maybe not ford directly but there is no shortage of roush cars out there that come with 670hp and 3 way adjustable coil overs.
 

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So your 3701lb car with no back seat and carbon fiber wheels is only 122lbs lighter then a supercharged fully loaded ZL1 1LE with a back seat. Feel better. How much closer will it be if the guy decides to take his back seat out?:headbonk:
Not too much closer. While the ZL1LE has a back seat, it's a light, fixed setup versus the normal, heavier fold-down version you find in other Camaros.
 

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Not too much closer. While the ZL1LE has a back seat, it's a light, fixed setup versus the normal, heavier fold-down version you find in other Camaros.
You may be right on that, but the Zl1 1LE comes fully loaded with heat and cooled seats, rear sensors, PDR, HUD, lane change, all carpets and mats. Much more loaded then the R.
 

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You may be right on that, but the Zl1 1LE comes fully loaded with heat and cooled seats, rear sensors, PDR, HUD, lane change, all carpets and mats. Much more loaded then the R.
so you dont want to compare the 350R to the ZL1LE because of heated seats? do we even know the extra cost of the 1le package on the ZL1 yet?
 

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So your 3701lb car with no back seat and carbon fiber wheels is only 122lbs lighter then a supercharged fully loaded ZL1 1LE with a back seat. Feel better. How much closer will it be if the guy decides to take his back seat out?:headbonk:
Who gives a fuck. You constantly keep comparing two cars that are not even in the same category! The GT350 is na. The camaro zl1 is fi.
I could only imagine what people like you would say if the gt500 were compared to the z28. A car with 124 more hp and 221 more tq with near equal weight sure as hell better be faster.

GM couldn't beat the GT350R with a na camaro so they had to add a blower.
Not to mention the NEW zl1 isnt any faster in a straight line than a 4 year old GT500. If the gt500 had better tires the gap in the turns would close.

I can't stand you magazine racers. I'll tell you what, lets race our own cars against each other. You and me. We both have na 2016 cars.
 

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So your 3701lb car with no back seat and carbon fiber wheels is only 122lbs lighter then a supercharged fully loaded ZL1 1LE with a back seat. Feel better. How much closer will it be if the guy decides to take his back seat out?:headbonk:
Didn't Vorschlag just weigh a 2017 ZL1 and it was 3930-3940lbs with 3/4 tank of gas? I saw the post and scale weights on FB in the last 2 days.

What is the 1LE option expected to do from a weight savings?
 

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I do not believe GM's weight claims of the zl1 1le.
So basically they are saying it's 200 pounds lighter than a zl1? Yeah right. And fully loaded.
 

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Who gives a fuck. You constantly keep comparing two cars that are not even in the same category! The GT350 is na. The camaro zl1 is fi.
I could only imagine what people like you would say if the gt500 were compared to the z28. A car with 124 more hp and 221 more tq with near equal weight sure as hell better be faster.

GM couldn't beat the GT350R with a na camaro so they had to add a blower.
Not to mention the NEW zl1 isnt any faster in a straight line than a 4 year old GT500. If the gt500 had better tires the gap in the turns would close.

I can't stand you magazine racers. I'll tell you what, lets race our own cars against each other. You and me. We both have na 2016 cars.
The R beat a 5th gen Zeta platform with more HP and less weight by a little over a sec and you think that is great? :shrug:The 1LE Alpha platform has already beat the z28 time on two tracks, so you think it takes a blower to beat the R?:crazy:
 

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I do not believe GM's weight claims of the zl1 1le.
So basically they are saying it's 200 pounds lighter than a zl1? Yeah right. And fully loaded.
Like everything GM does they used a ringer car to get there specs :ninja:
 

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I do not believe GM's weight claims of the zl1 1le.
So basically they are saying it's 200 pounds lighter than a zl1? Yeah right. And fully loaded.
How are you coming up with that?:shrug:
 

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How great is it of GM to release the zl1 a few months ago and get camaro lovers running to the dealers to buy the"fastest" camaro ever! And now another ploy to throw on the camaro lover a "3" second faster camaro.
If I was dumb enough to be a camaro guy I'd be pissed if I just bought a zl1 just to now learn the zl1 1le is out.
By the way, what a stupid name for a car. To many fking numbers and letters.
Don't worry. They will upgrade their zl1 as you upgraded your gt350 to meet your expectations. Aftermarket will be there and maybe even by chevy.
 

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So what is the main reason not compare a forced induced factory car with more hp and torque than an NA competitor, if they can be bought for the same price? Is money not the main concern here or what? Are these cars being given away for charity?
 

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Don't worry. They will upgrade their zl1 as you upgraded your gt350 to meet your expectations. Aftermarket will be there and maybe even by chevy.
A bone stock gt350 will beat your vett
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