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Curious to know if this will fix this issue tucked so much… my driver side rear wheel is -2.5° of camber and the passenger rear wheel is at -2.3° of camber…

someone brought this to my attention yesterday that my subframe might be misaligned. Is it worth a try? Heard great things about it.
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I have these on my car and I can tell you no they will not effect camber in any way. The only thing they do is make it reduce the cradles movement or deflection. They are absolutley worth installing as is their whole stop the hop kit. It makes a massive difference. If camber is the only thing you want to improve back there, Steedas adjustable camber arms are fantastic.
 

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They won’t have one bit of difference on deflection or handling - they are purely for centralising the subframe, and providing repeatability for future subframe removal and replacement :like:

Your camber is adjusted from the upper / camber arm :like:

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So the OP's question was that his sub-frame MAY be misaligned and will this help to align it? Do you guys feel that stabilizing and centralizing the sub-frame will be of no help to him?
 

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So the OP's question was that his sub-frame MAY be misaligned and will this help to align it? Do you guys feel that stabilizing and centralizing the sub-frame will be of no help to him?
My response was mostly (1st paragraph) aimed at post number 2, but in hindsight, I should have really quoted it :like:

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So the OP's question was that his sub-frame MAY be misaligned and will this help to align it? Do you guys feel that stabilizing and centralizing the sub-frame will be of no help to him?
Thank you, this is exactly what I meant.

yes I know camber is adjusted with the upper arms, but the camber on the passenger side is more positive than the driver side so it seems that my subframe is not aligned properly. That’s what I was asking about.

the wheel on the passenger side is way more tucked in than the driver side even though it’s camber is technically more positive.x
 
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I have these on my car and I can tell you no they will not effect camber in any way. The only thing they do is make it reduce the cradles movement or deflection. They are absolutley worth installing as is their whole stop the hop kit. It makes a massive difference. If camber is the only thing you want to improve back there, Steedas adjustable camber arms are fantastic.
I’m not talking about the camber, I’m talking about the wheel being tucked in further on the passenger side than the driver side.

the passenger side camber is more positive than the driver side yet it is tucked more.

im talking about the subframe being misaligned, hence why I’m referencing the wheels being more tucked in on one side. Yes I know the camber is adjusted with the camber arms, I’m talking about the subframe.
 

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So the OP's question was that his sub-frame MAY be misaligned and will this help to align it? Do you guys feel that stabilizing and centralizing the sub-frame will be of no help to him?
It may help center the cradle if it is off however it would be very strange for it to be off without impact or installation of new parts that caused it to be self inflicted misalignment of the cradle. However if the cradle was at 100% zero the camber readings would be the same number. The camber is adjustable however and a good alignment tech can bring that back into spec. If I remember correctly camber spec is -0.8 degrees to -2.3 degrees. Dropping the car 1 inch will always put you in the -2.0 to -3.0 range. It appears the camber needs to be adjusted. Again no parts absolutley needed just a good alignment with a tech that cares.
 

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I’m not talking about the camber, I’m talking about the wheel being tucked in further on the passenger side than the driver side.

the passenger side camber is more positive than the driver side yet it is tucked more.

im talking about the subframe being misaligned, hence why I’m referencing the wheels being more tucked in on one side. Yes I know the camber is adjusted with the camber arms, I’m talking about the subframe.
Gotcha man, Just misread your original question. When you install the aligment kit (bushing sleeves) Your short direct anwser is yes they will help to align or verify aligment of your cradle. They end up taking up the wiggle room or play that just the bolt would allow. If your rear cradle was off your bolts would not line up with their holes when using the alignment kit.
 
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Gotcha man, Just misread your original question. When you install the aligment kit (bushing sleeves) Your short direct anwser is yes they will help to align or verify aligment of your cradle. They end up taking up the wiggle room or play that just the bolt would allow. If your rear cradle was off your bolts would not line up with their holes when using the alignment kit.
Right. I haven’t installed them. One of my mustang buddies recommended it yesterday.

having some rear end handling issues and was told by my mechanic that it can somewhat throw off handling, especially if the alignment isn’t right.
 

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Shoot me an email to [email protected] & let me put you in touch with our technical team - I don't know that I have heard these helping with the wheel tuck but lets see what they say!

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If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right. Align the frame. Then do isolation/bracing. Then your alignment will finish the job.
 

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I have the full steeda stop the hop kit on my car and installed it myself and I can tell you this will not help align the subframe if it is crooked there’s an underlying issue there. Did you buy the car new? Was it in an accident? There’s probably something else bent. The four main bolts that hold the subframe to the car give no play or adjustment. But the stop the hop kit is a good modification.
 

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The four main bolts that hold the subframe to the car give no play or adjustment.
The bolts are MUCH smaller than the holes in the subframe cradle. The alignment dowels take up this room.
 

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The bolts are MUCH smaller than the holes in the subframe cradle. The alignment dowels take up this room.
Yes, they are but the braces with the other four bolts, align your subframe. Those have no play. I pretty much had to drop my whole subframe to put the differential bushings in and it was a b**** getting it aligned back up correctly. Have you ever dropped the subframe on S550?
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