Whipple vs Procharger

[djt81185]

I guess I should specify a street driven car. Not a race car.

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[jayman33]

I guess I should specify a street driven car. Not a race car.

Personally, I prefer the Whipple.

We went about 50k miles on our 2011 (stock motor, no OPG's, 47lbs injectors), not once did we have to change the oil or do any sort of "maintenance".

On a street driven car, most customers are going to want a blower that, well, they can slap on and not have to worry about for 100k miles.

I'm not taking anything away from Procharger, or any other Centri based blower, they'll all make you happy.

This is based more off preference than anything else. I've always like the PD blowers... or turbo.

The new Whipple is pretty damn amazing, everyone talks about heat issues, I don't think there will be an issue with that on these new units. Once we get our batch in we should be putting one on our 15. The intake manifold is a work of art, and the upgraded H/E is damn impressive.

99% of the guys here aren't looking to break records, again, they're looking for a dependable F/I application that is going to last long, be basically maintenance free and make great power.

We've pushed Whipple and Roush beyond 50k miles without one single issue. Only on our Roush car did we have to change the belt once, the whipple... nothing. No issues, no upgrades needed. All cars were pushing around mid 600's, a healthy number and something that lasted awhile as well.

 

[beefcake]

Like I've always said, any blower on a coyote at the end of the day works well.

It's such a great platform to start with.

Cost vs Power, I do believe the centri blowers have the edge. We have probably 500 centri'd coyotes on the road out there running issue free. And that's just us. That's not the companies total.

The power delivery is what I love the most. Controllable, and manageable. Once you learn the shift points on the cars, it's hard to beat a centri on the street, all things being equal.

 

[Tommy V]

Like I've always said, any blower on a coyote at the end of the day works well.

It's such a great platform to start with.

Cost vs Power, I do believe the centri blowers have the edge. We have probably 500 centri'd coyotes on the road out there running issue free. And that's just us. That's not the companies total.

The power delivery is what I love the most. Controllable, and manageable. Once you learn the shift points on the cars, it's hard to beat a centri on the street, all things being equal.

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[Mikeyd56]

Anyone in Chicago got a Procharger on the way? Lets do some track and highway vids! I will run the Whipple kit out-of-the-box w/ stock throttle for a couple weeks before going nuts.

I like both kits but only have enough room in the engine bay for one. Would be awesome to see some side by side runs to share with the world.

I don't have a pro charger yet but I live south of chicago and I'll gladly come to watch lol

 

[Trackaholic]

I voted Whipple. I do not like the ramping torque of turbos or centris. I prefer the flat torque of the PD blowers. Overall I prefer normally aspirated, but if I were to add a blower to the Coyote, it would be the Whipple set up. What's great is that pretty much all the kits look damn impressive, so you can be pretty confident going with any of them.

-T

 

[foghat]

I voted Whipple. I do not like the ramping torque of turbos or centris. I prefer the flat torque of the PD blowers. Overall I prefer normally aspirated, but if I were to add a blower to the Coyote, it would be the Whipple set up. What's great is that pretty much all the kits look damn impressive, so you can be pretty confident going with any of them.

-T

These statements seem to be at odds with each other?

If you prefer NA overall, I'd have thought you'd prefer a centri over PD. As a centri mimics the NA power delivery (which is a ramping up of torque), but adds a lot more oomph.

 

[ProChargerTECH]

I prefer the flat torque of the PD blowers.

-T

You might be surprised if you compared the PD TQ curve to that of the Centrifugals. Just saying....

 

[Trackaholic]

These statements seem to be at odds with each other?

If you prefer NA overall, I'd have thought you'd prefer a centri over PD. As a centri mimics the NA power delivery (which is a ramping up of torque), but adds a lot more oomph.

A N/A motor will typically have a small ramp in torque to usually around 4500-5000 RPM (of course depends on the motor), and then a drop to redline.

The P/D blower is more flat from the start, and then drops to redline.

The centri will typically have a much larger change from low RPM to high RPM.

I'd probably like a centri as well, it's really turbos that I don't like, but for the purposes of this poll, I prefer the Whipple. Would definitely be interesting to compare them side-by-side.

-T

 

[Trackaholic]

You might be surprised if you compared the PD TQ curve to that of the Centrifugals. Just saying....

Well, I would be surprised if comparing dyno torque curves changed my opinion, since those curves are what has led to it in the first place. But, I'm sure I would like a centri as well. Definitely before a turbo.

Here's my impression of a PD Blower (C7 Z06 Stock):

And a Centri C7 Z51 (happens to be Procharged as well):

-T

 

[ProChargerTECH]

Would definitely be interesting to compare them side-by-side.

-T

With a little creative searching on these forums you will find just that, since another member has already done that.

 

[Trackaholic]

With a little creative searching on these forums you will find just that, since another member has already done that.

Yes, see my edited post above. But I was talking "seat of the pants"

-T

 

[Process]

Personally, I prefer the Whipple.

We went about 50k miles on our 2011 (stock motor, no OPG's, 47lbs injectors), not once did we have to change the oil or do any sort of "maintenance".

On a street driven car, most customers are going to want a blower that, well, they can slap on and not have to worry about for 100k miles.

I'm not taking anything away from Procharger, or any other Centri based blower, they'll all make you happy.

This is based more off preference than anything else. I've always like the PD blowers... or turbo.

The new Whipple is pretty damn amazing, everyone talks about heat issues, I don't think there will be an issue with that on these new units. Once we get our batch in we should be putting one on our 15. The intake manifold is a work of art, and the upgraded H/E is damn impressive.

99% of the guys here aren't looking to break records, again, they're looking for a dependable F/I application that is going to last long, be basically maintenance free and make great power.

We've pushed Whipple and Roush beyond 50k miles without one single issue. Only on our Roush car did we have to change the belt once, the whipple... nothing. No issues, no upgrades needed. All cars were pushing around mid 600's, a healthy number and something that lasted awhile as well.

Not taking anything away from whipple, but I agree with djt, I haven't ever seen one perform in a street driven coyote. The 2.9L.

 

[ProChargerTECH]

Well, I would be surprised if comparing dyno torque curves changed my opinion, since those curves are what has led to it in the first place. But, I'm sure I would like a centri as well. Definitely before a turbo.

-T

Your comparison is very flawed. Not a good comparison to a Coyote supercharger

1) The C7 Z06 is built with a different camshaft then a standard C7. (Z06 cam is built for the blower)
2) The cams in the Coyote car move about 3-4 times more then the C7, thus can create drastically different TQ cuves
3) The C7 Z06 after about 3-4 short dyno pulls drops to about 540rwhp after everything gets up to temp. (major seat of the pants power fade, even yahoo wrote about it)
4) The ProCharger C7, even having the downfall of a none Forced induction cam, lower boost, still pull after pull will put down nearly 600rwhp.

I can appreciate the comparison, however it's no where NEAR correct.
You would have to have a PD and a Centri, on the same car. AKA a standard C7 (none Z06) to even come close.

Here, this is what you were looking for and an actual comparison on a 2015 Mustang
Both nearly equal boost.

I'll take the "seat of the pants" of the Centri with more TQ and HP, through the entire curve.

*ProCharger graph from the Evolution build on this forum
**Whipple graph from their company youtube video

 

[Process]

When I had my 2011 Grand Sport, I had a vortech V3 on it, and I'd always run against my buddy who had an edelbrock tvs 2300. Needless to say I never lost at the track against him. We both made similar power as well.

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