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Jackhammer
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Very True Solar.
My car has 355:1 gears and first gear is useless.
The second you hammer it, it roasts the tires.
I feel the new P1X has more mid range and better throttle response compared to the P1SC.
Tsloop8324
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I'm thankful for the bump in this thread too. I'm in the same boat of procharger vs whipple.
I have an 18 pp1 10speed. Bone stock with the exception of an H pipe and it's my daily. I get groceries, take trash, take the kids to school, rain.. everything except snow. I dont race or track it. Just want a fun street car in the mid 600 to low 700whp.
I was completely set on procharger stage 2 with a p1x.... HOWEVER.. my car rarely sees 6500rpm much less 7k+. So I feel I wouldnt really get full enjoyment from a procharger.
It seems that whipple has one of the best out of the box tunes and basically makes the prices of the kits the same since I would be adding $1k for remote tuning with the procharger as it seems many people weren't happy with the kit tune.
This is what brings me to the gen 5 whipple.. I can enjoy the power all the time while keeping stock like manners when not pushing the car...I really like supercharger whine too, lol. I feel that the need for OPG/CS wouldnt be absolutely needed since I wont be revving out all the way with a whipple as where I would definitely need to with a PC since I wouldnt really see the power unless I'm revving it out.
I've read the installs for both kits several times over. Procharger seems almost too easy but I would prefer to leave the crank alone to minimize potential issues. The whipple install seems more involved with very minor modifications but easily can be done at home with standard tools.
Obviously I havent experienced either just months of reading and researching so if I'm wrong someone please correct me. Just trying to make a decision
I have an 18 pp1 10speed. Bone stock with the exception of an H pipe and it's my daily. I get groceries, take trash, take the kids to school, rain.. everything except snow. I dont race or track it. Just want a fun street car in the mid 600 to low 700whp.
I was completely set on procharger stage 2 with a p1x.... HOWEVER.. my car rarely sees 6500rpm much less 7k+. So I feel I wouldnt really get full enjoyment from a procharger.
It seems that whipple has one of the best out of the box tunes and basically makes the prices of the kits the same since I would be adding $1k for remote tuning with the procharger as it seems many people weren't happy with the kit tune.
This is what brings me to the gen 5 whipple.. I can enjoy the power all the time while keeping stock like manners when not pushing the car...I really like supercharger whine too, lol. I feel that the need for OPG/CS wouldnt be absolutely needed since I wont be revving out all the way with a whipple as where I would definitely need to with a PC since I wouldnt really see the power unless I'm revving it out.
I've read the installs for both kits several times over. Procharger seems almost too easy but I would prefer to leave the crank alone to minimize potential issues. The whipple install seems more involved with very minor modifications but easily can be done at home with standard tools.
Obviously I havent experienced either just months of reading and researching so if I'm wrong someone please correct me. Just trying to make a decision
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The whipple install took me about two days in my garage to do, but if you’re looking for supercharger whine the gen 5 doesn’t produce any, at least for me.
Tsloop8324
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Oh okay, I had seen an video of a guy with an 18 and a stage 1 whipple and his whined a lot. But you have one so you would know more than me.
Overall, how do you like it? Did you do any supporting mods?
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I absolutely love it, I have a fore fuel system, 150TB, 3.5 griptec pulley, I got the dual fans but wish I went oversized. I’m about to replace it with the killer chiller anyways. DW95 injectors and a mantic twin disc clutch on stock mt-82. I make right around 800 on e85
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Car sounds awesome. I was looking into doing the fans as well... do they not do a very good job at keeping the heat down when in traffic or a long stop light?
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why don’t you drive your car ? I don’t understand ?? Why not rev it out !
Should get the roush kit from ford then , 8600 installed at the dealer .
If you’re set on the whipple , look into getting a killer chiller or interchiller set up if you’re worried about heat soak. It will direct your AC line to your tank to cool your whipple . You’ll see IATs in the 50s in a 100 degree day .
Tsloop8324
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I thought about going that route but I want to do the install myself. Not just for the $ but also for self pride in my car. Also, arent the roush kits typically the worst with keeping temps down?
I drive my car spiritedly. I just dont push it to the redline all that often. If I'm not using the paddles then obviously the car revs out if I'm W.O.T but usually I'm in track mode with the paddles
Jackhammer
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https://youtu.be/e-g1pcak5YM
These are pretty good E85 comparisons.
Both are 2015 Mustang GT’s.
Pretty amazing horsepower.
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SolarFlare
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I have the blower from the car on the top vídeo now lol
Tsloop8324
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Yeah, I've watched a ton of videos comparing the two. It does seem the prochargers often make more power but both kits out the box would give me the power I'm looking for. I'm not looking to set records or anything, lol.
What has me debating the two is: what's more fun, which one will be more "bang for your buck" with daily driving.
I like both setups a lot.
Tsloop8324
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If I go procharger I want to go with the p1x. Anything over that seems like overkill for what I want and the p1x will have room to grow as well.
I saw you waited to do opgs on your build, did you have suspension mods to start or did you add them after boost.
Thats part of my pros/cons for both to me, what supporting mods are truly needed for each setup.
Tsloop8324
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I think that would be above what I'm trying to go for. I wouldnt even be maxing out a p1x. Thanks though
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