Very low low-end torque/power

[GTguy0130]

I took a test drive about a month ago in a '21 301A GT. My last Mustang was a '13 GT. Both M6 trans. I concur with OP in that I found the torque lower on the new car. About 4k is were I started to feel performance. My '13 was bone stock.

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[Wyzz Kydd]

So, the nannies won’t let you roast the tires in anything but track?

Thats a bummer if you’re really mad and want to leave a quick FU burnout in a parking lot but have to stop and turn off TC. Kinda ruins the moment.

You have to stop to turn off TC?

 

[Lads1719]

I took a test drive about a month ago in a '21 301A GT. My last Mustang was a '13 GT. Both M6 trans. I concur with OP in that I found the torque lower on the new car. About 4k is were I started to feel performance. My '13 was bone stock.

I would imagine that cause the

You have to stop to turn off TC?

No, never mind what I said, I read what he wrote completely wrong. But I do still think it’s TC that’s holding the OP back. The test drive may have been due to the car still in break-in mode.

 

[SpeedLu]

What's your gear ratio? Mine is 3.55 and I have no problem spinning the tires when in Track Mode.

 

[givemeadollar]

So, the nannies won’t let you roast the tires in anything but track?

Thats a bummer if you’re really mad and want to leave a quick FU burnout in a parking lot but have to stop and turn off TC. Kinda ruins the moment.

Theres a plug next to your airbox. Pull it to disable traction control and advancetrac all the time for every driving mode.

 

[Grumbleplitz]

I have a 2020 Mustang GT manual, no tune (yet) and have no problems burning out in first and chirping in 2nd in any of the drive modes. I would have it checked out at the dealer, but also check out the response in different modes.

 

[JetGray_Mach1]

I took a test drive about a month ago in a '21 301A GT. My last Mustang was a '13 GT. Both M6 trans. I concur with OP in that I found the torque lower on the new car. About 4k is were I started to feel performance. My '13 was bone stock.

hmmm this does not make sense, i would think the 3rd gen would have more low end torque with the direct inj/port inj combo?

OP,
either way as everyone has said, if its under warranty definitely take it to dealer.

 

[Cobra Jet]

I just purchased a used 2020 mustang gt from a dealer and previously had a 2014 mustang gt. On the 2014 I could just punch the gas pedal and release the clutch and the car would take off. With the 2020 if I do the same thing the whole car just bogs, slowly starts to take off and then suddenly thrusts forward. I can't every get it to break the rear tires free no matter how much throttle I give it before releasing the clutch. Am I doing something wrong, is there something wrong with the car or is this just how these newer ones are? Kinda annoying but the car still feels faster than the 14 in the higher rpm's.

What gear set is in the rear diff? There’s multiple gear sets available anymore with the S550, depending on trans and option packages.

If you’re into torque and depending on how the car will be used (daily driver, weekend warrior, all track and no daily, etc) change the rear gear set out to 4.10’s or 4.56’s and you get the “seat-o-the-pants” torque. Obviously those gear ratios are more suited to N/A applications instead of forced induction IF the car is to be used for 100% track use.

 

[Dfeeds]

The gearing is taller in first gear but not that much... there's a ton of torque management/truncation going on at a software level. If I accidentally dump the clutch or screw up a take off the car bogs for a second or two before regaining itself

Side note but the higher compression of the gen 3 makes it a bit more sensitive to knock, especially at low rpms. The stock tune won't hesitate to retard the crap out of the car, especially on a hot and humid day. Even with the FRPP tune, I gotta mix in a little bit of e85 to get rid of some low end hesitation. Even 93 doesn't cut it.

 

[ice445]

I live at altitude and I can still easily blow the rear tires off on my car if I chose to. Sounds like you aren't turning traction control completely off.

 

[GreenS550]

Significantly worse gearing in the 18+. Significant. This is the issue. My 16 had much more punch than my M1 has. 3.66:1 vs 3.23:1 One the '18+ PP cars, you would have to have a 4.23:1 rear axle ratio to equal the gearing on the 17 and down.
This has been discussed over and over. Several folks have put bigger gears in to compensate. You will need a tune to get the rev matching, etc to work correctly, though..

 

[808Hiphotog]

I have a 3.55 gear rear end as far as I know. I doubt the previous owner changed that. The car had 2800 miles on it when I bought it. He had put the Steeda H pipe on it and Borla Type-S axle backs on it. I do not know if it was tuned at all. I bought it from a dealer so I never got to talk to the previous owner. I took the car out today and tried all the different modes. None of them make a difference. It feels as if the clutch pedal gets to a certain spot and the ignition shuts off momentarily. I guess I will just take it to Ford and see if they can figure it out. It's not that I want to be doing burnouts all the time or anything, but it just bugs me that I can't take off as fast I feel I should be able to. I was hoping someone was going to tell me I had the anti mustang meme setting activated or something like that.

 

[hlfbkd420]

I have a 3.55 gear rear end as far as I know. I doubt the previous owner changed that. The car had 2800 miles on it when I bought it. He had put the Steeda H pipe on it and Borla Type-S axle backs on it. I do not know if it was tuned at all. I bought it from a dealer so I never got to talk to the previous owner. I took the car out today and tried all the different modes. None of them make a difference. It feels as if the clutch pedal gets to a certain spot and the ignition shuts off momentarily. I guess I will just take it to Ford and see if they can figure it out. It's not that I want to be doing burnouts all the time or anything, but it just bugs me that I can't take off as fast I feel I should be able to. I was hoping someone was going to tell me I had the anti mustang meme setting activated or something like that.

if you go into the manual vs auto threads they may take away your man card.

i would still get it looked at though. I lost my card when I bought an auto.

 

[ice445]

I have a 3.55 gear rear end as far as I know. I doubt the previous owner changed that. The car had 2800 miles on it when I bought it. He had put the Steeda H pipe on it and Borla Type-S axle backs on it. I do not know if it was tuned at all. I bought it from a dealer so I never got to talk to the previous owner. I took the car out today and tried all the different modes. None of them make a difference. It feels as if the clutch pedal gets to a certain spot and the ignition shuts off momentarily. I guess I will just take it to Ford and see if they can figure it out. It's not that I want to be doing burnouts all the time or anything, but it just bugs me that I can't take off as fast I feel I should be able to. I was hoping someone was going to tell me I had the anti mustang meme setting activated or something like that.

It's not MODES that you need to be changing. You need to hold the toggle switch that has a car skidding with the word "off" next to it for 10 seconds to fully disable traction control, otherwise it will always catch your clutch dump and bog the car.

 

[gadgtfreek]

I have a 2020 Mustang GT manual, no tune (yet) and have no problems burning out in first and chirping in 2nd in any of the drive modes. I would have it checked out at the dealer, but also check out the response in different modes.

Same for me...

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