Up-dated*** Mach 1 Dyno Sheets (no Forced Induction)

[joepro]

Unless you are comparing runs on the same day and dyno, it's not apples to apples anyway...dyno graphs are fun to look at...and use for tuning, while this thread will be fun, you can't take any of this as proven fact when comparing.

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[cahouston]

Ok we have rules:

1. No forced Induction Dyno numbers (post those under FI)
2. No I think, or my buddy told me! If you don’t post a sheet with the pull and data, we don’t care what you heard! Haha, seriously.
3. Base Mach 1 data is ok as we want to get a baseline of the baseline.
4. Must specify modifications with your post.
5. List the hp, as some of the sheets are hard to read


****Dyno results from post #

1. 465.96hp 2021 M1/6sp 85deg Kooks/100Tune #2
2. 452.2hp 2022 M1/A10 Kooks/Tune #24(Gen3 thread)
3. 427.02hp 2021 M1/6sp stock #26
4. 422.49hp 2021 M1/6sp stock #26
5. 420.42hp 2022 M1/6sp 84deg stock #26

From Gen 3 Dyno (go here to see all mods and Data)
https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/na-gen-3-dyno-charts-post-yours.183217/

472.7hp 2020 GT/A10 E85 #15
472.03hp 2019 GT/A10 70deg E85/CAI/Xpipe #7
445hp 2019 GT/A10 60deg Stock**/CAI #7


(No Data posts from Gen3, ok I broke the rule and posted these for now!)
***639hp 2019 Bullitt 6/sp (N2O) LTH/CAI #12 (no data)
469hp 2019 Bullitt 6/sp LTH/CAI #12 (no data)
475hp 2020 G/A10 Kooks/E85 #13 (no data)
458hp 2021/A10 LTH/CAI/93 #10 (no data)
451hp 2022/A10 Kooks/E85 #9 (no data)

***The Nitrous Oxide mod is very interesting.
** This "Stock" data is suspect and acknowledged by post.

You captured my info from the gen3 n/a thread incorrectly. My 445 stock number is backed up with a sheet and a 1/4 mile slip. Also I have no aftermarket CAI, just a drop in K&N filter. Funny how you list it as "suspect" haha. The shop calling it a factory freak isn't implying it's suspect or I'm lying.

My 472.03 also lists CAI but again, I don't have one...just the drop-in.

 

[Ransom]

You captured my info from the gen3 n/a thread incorrectly. My 445 stock number is backed up with a sheet and a 1/4 mile slip. Also I have no aftermarket CAI, just a drop in K&N filter. Funny how you list it as "suspect" haha. The shop calling it a factory freak isn't implying it's suspect or I'm lying.

My 472.03 also lists CAI but again, I don't have one...just the drop-in.

I think he mixed them up.

 

[WCRookie99]

You captured my info from the gen3 n/a thread incorrectly. My 445 stock number is backed up with a sheet and a 1/4 mile slip. Also I have no aftermarket CAI, just a drop in K&N filter. Funny how you list it as "suspect" haha. The shop calling it a factory freak isn't implying it's suspect or I'm lying.

My 472.03 also lists CAI but again, I don't have one...just the drop-in.

445 Stock number is noted with data, removed CAI, change suspect to "odd"

 

[2021 Mach 1]

I wish few people with a completely stock one would do a dyno run.

My sheet has the before, which was totally stock (thin lines)
https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/na-gen-3-dyno-charts-post-yours.183217/post-3689602

 

[WCRookie99]

My sheet has the before, which was totally stock (thin lines)
https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/na-gen-3-dyno-charts-post-yours.183217/post-3689602

Got "stock" added, thx

 

[WCRookie99]

So I get this Dyno thing is suspect due of all the different Dyno’s.

Plus…

There’s a correction factor for measuring hp based on the Society of Automotive Engineers, paper J1349 JUN90:

CF = 1.180 * [(990/Pd)*((Tc+273)/293)^.5] - .18

Where:
CF is the correction factor
Pd is atmospheric pressure in mB
Tc is ambient temperature in ºC

So in short, yes temperature and pressure can make a large difference. Unless you have a hurricane approaching temperature normally changes quicker in a day.

Everyone says you must test the same Dyno on the same day, that’s actually wrong. It’s same Dyno same conditions.

100deg day will certainly have worse results then a 50deg day.

Dyno graphs that post conditions help.

 

[comptech87]

22 Mach 1 A10
Stock pull 438
Then added Kooks 1 7/8 GC headers and a tune (93)
Pulled 457whp

I’ve got a E85 map now I need to do pulls on still too.

 

[Caleb]

22 Mach 1 6MT
Kooks 1 7/8" headers with green cats, 3" connections to Corsa catback
Hydrocarbon trap removed along with the tapered insert that held it
Reische Performance 170 degree thermostat
Flex tune, made a best of 470hp on 93 octane (same dyno, previous day)

 

[WCRookie99]

22 Mach 1 6MT
Kooks 1 7/8" headers with green cats, 3" connections to Corsa catback
Hydrocarbon trap removed along with the tapered insert that held it
Reische Performance 170 degree thermostat
Flex tune, made a best of 470hp on 93 octone (same dyno, previous day)

Huge pull, nice

 

[WCRookie99]

Updated data #1

 

[Rhyanski]

Has anyone made dyno pulls on different mode settings after all?

I suspect that track mode is much more linear than all the rest. It seems that due to the emission restrictions, Normal mode goes linear up to 3-3.500 RPM, then between 3.500 and 5-5200 there's a 'gap' and it is realy flat, then again from 5,200 onwards is linear.
Sport+ is kind of very sensitive throttle, as someone said, you push a little and it opens a lot, but again up to 3500 RPM, then it seems flat up to 5500, and again goes linear up to 7.500.
Track mode seems linear all around, but again, you have to hit the gas to get it running, and the car does seem 'faster' in Sport+ compared to Track mode. My best bet is that track mode is most effective if you run the car in the 3600-5800 RPM range. Below 3.500, or more likely up to 3.5 is "daily commute power range", 5500k onwards is like 'this is where the fun begins, and the gas dissolves into thin air in split seconds..."

 

[aham23]

Has anyone made dyno pulls on different mode settings after all?

I suspect that track mode is much more linear than all the rest. It seems that due to the emission restrictions, Normal mode goes linear up to 3-3.500 RPM, then between 3.500 and 5-5200 there's a 'gap' and it is realy flat, then again from 5,200 onwards is linear.
Sport+ is kind of very sensitive throttle, as someone said, you push a little and it opens a lot, but again up to 3500 RPM, then it seems flat up to 5500, and again goes linear up to 7.500.
Track mode seems linear all around, but again, you have to hit the gas to get it running, and the car does seem 'faster' in Sport+ compared to Track mode. My best bet is that track mode is most effective if you run the car in the 3600-5800 RPM range. Below 3.500, or more likely up to 3.5 is "daily commute power range", 5500k onwards is like 'this is where the fun begins, and the gas dissolves into thin air in split seconds..."

Yes TONY FORDS and MUSTANGS on YOUTUBE has done all that. No differences. He actually noted differences with the removing the Carbon Trap and swapping in the Blue Performance filter that put the 22 back on part with 21 numbers.

 

[WD Pro]

Yes TONY FORDS and MUSTANGS on YOUTUBE has done all that. No differences. He actually noted differences with the removing the Carbon Trap and swapping in the Blue Performance filter that put the 22 back on part with 21 numbers.

I'm defo not disputing your source and I accept the Ford catalogues are full of errors, but this is crap they feed us in the U.K. :

Although they include the word 'may' just to ensure the statement is completely useless ...

WD

 

[Jjmoberg]

I'm defo not disputing your source and I accept the Ford catalogues are full of errors, but this is crap they feed us in the U.K. :

Although they include the word 'may' just to ensure the statement is completely useless ...

WD

I dont think it makes more in any mode. It may make less in rain/snow i think. I think a few different cars say not to run them hard in their stealth type exhaust modes. Camaro specifically if i remember right

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