Thought I Blew My Engine @ Laguna

[stanglife]

I started to reply earlier but decided not to...but now that I see how the thread is going....

It might have been worth mentioning to them and ask if there is anything they can do - but if you already know in advance that it's the type of shop or such a small shop that they likely wouldnt be cooperative, sometimes in life it's just smarter to move on - like you said, you have other things to do. Move on, enjoy the car.

PS - it's common practice to retire a set of pads if they get contaminated. Rotors, not so much. Just go get your old ones back stat. Use them for future track day...you were going to burn through these anyway ;)

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[JAJ]

There seem to be two threads here. One is the one the OP started where a small local shop did the oil change that led to the filter leaking, and a separate one where folks think that the Ford dealer did the oil change.

Am I correct that the Ford dealer's only involvement was cleaning up the mess, and that they weren't responsible for the messed up oil change?

Also, on the brakes, if you think about it, the calipers would have to be disassembled and rebuilt to replace any rubber parts that were contaminated (like the dust boots), so swapping them is probably more cost-effective. As for the rotors, once oil gets inside the cooling channels that duct cooling air through the rotor then you definitely don't want them back on the car. And, of course, an oiled up set of pads are trash. So, as expensive as the brake work was, it makes sense.

 

[DrumReaper]

yes, that was what they told me over the phone. No telling what they’d be willing to put in writing. If I were the shop I’d blame it all on the over rev / missed shift / driver.

Ahhhh.... hearsay. That sucks. So we basically don’t know who was at fault but you were stuck with the bill.

Glad your engine is ok.

 

[ARDrummond25]

There seem to be two threads here. One is the one the OP started where a small local shop did the oil change that led to the filter leaking, and a separate one where folks think that the Ford dealer did the oil change.

Am I correct that the Ford dealer's only involvement was cleaning up the mess, and that they weren't responsible for the messed up oil change?

Also, on the brakes, if you think about it, the calipers would have to be disassembled and rebuilt to replace any rubber parts that were contaminated (like the dust boots), so swapping them is probably more cost-effective. As for the rotors, once oil gets inside the cooling channels that duct cooling air through the rotor then you definitely don't want them back on the car. And, of course, an oiled up set of pads are trash. So, as expensive as the brake work was, it makes sense.

correct. Ford was only involved after the fact

 

[stanglife]

Also, on the brakes, if you think about it, the calipers would have to be disassembled and rebuilt to replace any rubber parts that were contaminated (like the dust boots), so swapping them is probably more cost-effective. As for the rotors, once oil gets inside the cooling channels that duct cooling air through the rotor then you definitely don't want them back on the car. And, of course, an oiled up set of pads are trash. So, as expensive as the brake work was, it makes sense.

I'd brake clean the rotors and be done - they are a hunk of iron. For calipers and seals..if they are impervious to brake fluid, oil isn't going to be a problem. Clean them.

If anyone wants to give me some rotors and calipers because they got some oil on them, send me a PM.

 

[ARDrummond25]

I'd brake clean the rotors and be done - they are a hunk of iron. For calipers and seals..if they are impervious to brake fluid, oil isn't going to be a problem. Clean them.

If anyone wants to give me some rotors and calipers because they got some oil on them, send me a PM.

do you track your car regularly?

 

[2morrow]

Wow, Super unfortunate OP. Glad to hear it wasn't a bigger issues though.

 

[ARDrummond25]

Wow, Super unfortunate OP. Glad to hear it wasn't a bigger issues though.

Me too. Thanks.

 

[honeybadger]

okay everyone seems to be voting for clean the underbelly of the car. What would be the recommended method?

as for the mechanic not getting first crack at the car, I would rather pay myself than let them near my car again.

Simple green diluted with water and a small brush. Agitate everything with that and pressure wash it clean. Works best when you can lift the car in the air of course

 

[honeybadger]

do you track your car regularly?

My car is a dedicated track that sees a stupid amount of track time. And I agree with @stanglife on this one. A really thorough cleaning would get the job done IMHO. I know I've personally dealt with it that way

There's nothing wrong with being overly cautious. Did you get the original parts back?

 

[stanglife]

do you track your car regularly?

I've tracked other cars a bunch but not this one, yet.

PS - I'm not trying to beat you up at all - you gotta do what makes you feel comfortable. It was more a case for trying to get your original parts back, as I feel like there's some value there and it might take the sting out of the expense of a future track day ;)

 

[stanglife]

Simple green diluted with water and a small brush. Agitate everything with that and pressure wash it clean. Works best when you can lift the car in the air of course

Absolutely - dont get overly aggressive with that stuff - It's awesome but if you go full strength, it can/will pit aluminum and can alter painted finishes. 50/50 is usually more than strong enough.

 

[honeybadger]

Absolutely - dont get overly aggressive with that stuff - It's awesome but if you go full strength, it can/will pit aluminum and can alter painted finishes. 50/50 is usually more than strong enough.

I don't even go 50%. My mixture is usually about 80-20 or so. Griots also makes an engine cleaner that works well (it's red in a clear bottle).

 

[WildHorse]

okay everyone seems to be voting for clean the underbelly of the car. What would be the recommended method?

dish soap loaded in the container with a high pressure washer does by far the best job. I use dawn, works like a charm. Then rinse after using the high pressure washer.

 

[stanglife]

dish soap loaded in the container with a high pressure washer does by far the best job. I use dawn, works like a charm. Then rinse after using the high pressure washer.

Dawn works great, too! I'd keep the paint itself wet and not let any of it get on or sit on the painted surfaces though (especially simple green)

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