Things I dislike so far..

[Jb350]

If you look @ the cars that are the fastest in the lighting laps they are also fast in the 1/4 mile numbers. Show me a fast track car and I'll show you a fast 1/4 car. GM advertises 1/4 mile results. C7 Z51 8 speed 3.6 and 11.9 and the Z06 3.3 and 11.5.. Hell you can take a boss 302 and it's quicker on the street. Even a mustang GT with a few mods.

All your saying is that a fast car is fast lol. Remember stock gt350s will run anywhere between 12-12.5, that's not slow by any means. It's not designed for the quarter mile, the gearing and power band are engineered for a road course. There are plenty of cars that are faster in a quarter mile but can't keep up with the 350 on a track. The numbers you are quoting are also from auto transmissions which are inherently faster to launch. Would it be nice to have anot extra 75-100hp, yes. But does the car disappoint me in anyway because of its strait line speed ,NO! Because I bought the car to track, not drag

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[firestarter2]

All your saying is that a fast car is fast lol. Remember stock gt350s will run anywhere between 12-12.5, that's not slow by any means. It's not designed for the quarter mile, the gearing and power band are engineered for a road course. There are plenty of cars that are faster in a quarter mile but can't keep up with the 350 on a track. The numbers you are quoting are also from auto transmissions which are inherently faster to launch. Would it be nice to have anot extra 75-100hp, yes. But does the car disappoint me in anyway because of its strait line speed ,NO! Because I bought the car to track, not drag

This is the problem with ADM.. The GT350 was a 50k car (assuming you want to go fast in a straight line) some people paid 5k,10k,20k,30k over and are trying to compare it to cars that cost that much.

 

[Minn19]

This is the problem with ADM.. The GT350 was a 50k car (assuming you want to go fast in a straight line) some people paid 5k,10k,20k,30k over and are trying to compare it to cars that cost that much.

Not everything is the fault of the ADMs. :doh:

I'm not sure where you get the 50k number as most are configured closer to 60k MSRP.

I feel like my GT350 even in Tech Pack configuration stacks up nicely and even has better performance hardware/characteristics than my 81k MSRP M4 did.

Edit: I will say it did take some convincing from a couple of members here, Hill Country Driver and XT6Wagon.

 

[J_Maher_AMG]

I don't even have my R yet and I can say for certain I won't have a care in the world if someone can pull on me on the street or highway or at the strip. Modifying the words of the famous Jeremy Clarkson a little but....

"He who shall be last, shall be listening to his voodoo and smiling"

To be 100% honest, I think it is good that the 350 is not "that" fast; it means you can spend more time with your foot on the gas pedal without going into triple digit speeds or being scare shitless. I believe this is a lot of what makes Porsches so rewarding and fun to drive; they don't have a whole lot of torque down low but they sound great, so on the street you can really play with the powerband and enjoy the noise of the car, the steering, the handling. Overall speed, to me anyways, is largely irrelevant in terms of driving satisfaction. Hence why the Cayman and Boxster are regarded as some of the best sports cars for any money ;)

 

[Jb350]

This is the problem with ADM.. The GT350 was a 50k car (assuming you want to go fast in a straight line) some people paid 5k,10k,20k,30k over and are trying to compare it to cars that cost that much.

I don't believe that's the issue, I believe the issue is that the majority(excluding collectors) of people who bought this car bought it for 1 of 2 reasons. Reason 1) they purchased to stoplight race,drag race and show off. They heard so much about the car and ASSUMED it would be able to keep up. The magazines were comparing it to much more expensive cars ON TRACK, so they thought it would be able to beat them in a straight line. Reason 2) they blindly follow ford so much they would buy any special edition mustang no matter how good(or bad) it is...... In both of these cases these owners have no intention of using the car for what it was designed for. These people will always be disappointed, because they spent close to 60k or more on a car that they don't really understand, and will never appreciate.
The small minority of people who have driven or plan to drive their cars on track, rarely complain (unless the bought a tech car)

 

[firestarter2]

I don't even have my R yet and I can say for certain I won't have a care in the world if someone can pull on me on the street or highway or at the strip. Modifying the words of the famous Jeremy Clarkson a little but....

"He who shall be last, shall be listening to his voodoo and smiling"

To be 100% honest, I think it is good that the 350 is not "that" fast; it means you can spend more time with your foot on the gas pedal without going into triple digit speeds or being scare shitless. I believe this is a lot of what makes Porsches so rewarding and fun to drive; they don't have a whole lot of torque down low but they sound great, so on the street you can really play with the powerband and enjoy the noise of the car, the steering, the handling. Overall speed, to me anyways, is largely irrelevant in terms of driving satisfaction. Hence why the Cayman and Boxster are regarded as some of the best sports cars for any money ;)

The car has 500 hp?? in what universe is it not fast? Its retard fast.

 

[firestarter2]

I don't believe that's the issue, I believe the issue is that the majority(excluding collectors) of people who bought this car bought it for 1 of 2 reasons. Reason 1) they purchased to stoplight race,drag race and show off. They heard so much about the car and ASSUMED it would be able to keep up. The magazines were comparing it to much more expensive cars ON TRACK, so they thought it would be able to beat them in a straight line. Reason 2) they blindly follow ford so much they would buy any special edition mustang no matter how good(or bad) it is...... In both of these cases these owners have no intention of using the car for what it was designed for. These people will always be disappointed, because they spent close to 60k or more on a car that they don't really understand, and will never appreciate.
The small minority of people who have driven or plan to drive their cars on track, rarely complain (unless the bought a tech car)

Maybe you are right. I didn't see any videos of people drag racing the car. you want that get a lower comp engine and throw a turbo or SC on it. Not a car with a 12.5 comp ratio.

Maybe ive been away from forums too long the crowd seems less well informed.

 

[Zitrosounds]

I'm no pro either, but I promise you if you use this car for what it was intended for(a road course), you'll find that there is more than enough power. The same GTR's that beat you in a drag race will stuggle to stay with you through the corners. In fact, with a little experience, you'll find yourself outrunning cars that cost 2-3 times as much.

Actually, once he clarified, Randy said "I don't have any complaints". Nice try though! minute 18:43
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[J_Maher_AMG]

The car has 500 hp?? in what universe is it not fast? Its retard fast.

You misinterpreted what I was getting at; of course it is fast, especially in the power band. But most of the time on back roads or driving around you are nowhere near redline right? Well, everyone mentions how it is not crazy fast down low in the rpm range, BUT it still sounds great, so IMO I believe you can spend a lot of time just in second and third gear, in the 3000-5000 rpm range, giving quick little blasts of the throttle while enjoying the sound and shifting, without having to be fearful of losing your license or flying off the road.

You can spend more time in the lower-mid range of the powerband on the gas and just enjoy the experience as opposed to a Z06 for example that at 2500 rpms it will blow its rear tires to pieces. To me, be able to spend more time listening to the car and enjoying the experience without the stress of having "too much" power will be very satisfying!

 

[firestarter2]

You misinterpreted what I was getting at; of course it is fast, especially in the power band. But most of the time on back roads or driving around you are nowhere near redline right? Well, everyone mentions how it is not crazy fast down low in the rpm range, BUT it still sounds great, so IMO I believe you can spend a lot of time just in second and third gear, in the 3000-5000 rpm range, giving quick little blasts of the throttle while enjoying the sound and shifting, without having to be fearful of losing your license or flying off the road.

You can spend more time in the lower-mid range of the powerband on the gas and just enjoy the experience as opposed to a Z06 for example that at 2500 rpms it will blow its rear tires to pieces. To me, be able to spend more time listening to the car and enjoying the experience without the stress of having "too much" power will be very satisfying!

Oh unless I tear around is first im never in the power band I wish second was shorter but then again if i was on the track id probably be fine with it. Streets here are 25, highway is 50:( second goes to 75? 80?

 

[MAV]

The car has 500 hp?? in what universe is it not fast? Its retard fast.

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[Wayne Turner]

My cars are not overly fast. High 11, low 12 second cars. It sounds like the GT350 is in that ball park. Now my cars have low rpm torque in spades but it sounds like Im going to get to the same place in the same amount of time but the GT350 will be coming on in a hurry at the top end. :first: Cant wait till it gets here to find out. Matter if fact, I think today is its birthdate. (blend date).

 

[Spacebird]

The car has 500 hp?? in what universe is it not fast? Its retard fast.

There's track fast and there's street fast. The GT350 doesn't get fast until you're over 6000 RPM, and 6000 RPM on the street is extremely difficult to do legally. It's track fast, not street fast.

Street fast cars have low end torque which gives one the illusion of speed: incredible acceleration from light to light, but often not much above that.

If people want their GT350s to be street fast they should look at new rear gearing.

 

[Kurac]

You misinterpreted what I was getting at; of course it is fast, especially in the power band. But most of the time on back roads or driving around you are nowhere near redline right? Well, everyone mentions how it is not crazy fast down low in the rpm range, BUT it still sounds great, so IMO I believe you can spend a lot of time just in second and third gear, in the 3000-5000 rpm range, giving quick little blasts of the throttle while enjoying the sound and shifting, without having to be fearful of losing your license or flying off the road.

You can spend more time in the lower-mid range of the powerband on the gas and just enjoy the experience as opposed to a Z06 for example that at 2500 rpms it will blow its rear tires to pieces. To me, be able to spend more time listening to the car and enjoying the experience without the stress of having "too much" power will be very satisfying!

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[Scoobs]

I don't believe that's the issue, I believe the issue is that the majority(excluding collectors) of people who bought this car bought it for 1 of 2 reasons. Reason 1) they purchased to stoplight race,drag race and show off. They heard so much about the car and ASSUMED it would be able to keep up. The magazines were comparing it to much more expensive cars ON TRACK, so they thought it would be able to beat them in a straight line. Reason 2) they blindly follow ford so much they would buy any special edition mustang no matter how good(or bad) it is...... In both of these cases these owners have no intention of using the car for what it was designed for. These people will always be disappointed, because they spent close to 60k or more on a car that they don't really understand, and will never appreciate.
The small minority of people who have driven or plan to drive their cars on track, rarely complain (unless the bought a tech car)

LOL I don't fit into any of the categories you mentioned. Not a collector, not a stoplight racer, last Ford I bought was 1986, and I don't plan on tracking. I just like the car, especially the engine.

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