Summer tire minimum temp

[KingKona]

Yeah but you're oblivious to all sorts of things....

Drive it down the street a couple blocks at 35 mph and then slam the brakes and see if you like the outcome. It doesn't matter what the tires do when just rolling straight and level. It's why you see suv upside down in the ditch at the slightest snow.

It's been 10+ years. It's perfectly fine.

Emergency stops are perfectly fine.

The part about upside-down SUVs doesn't make any sense.

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[DopamineQuest]

What temperature would it take to ruin a set of ps4s tires?

Michelin states that driving them anything under 20 degrees F can cause cracking and splitting, and should not be done, ever. I've driven them under 40 before and they're rocks but had no problems, wouldn't advise it though.

 

[Austin1992]

I am not trying to drive on them all winter, just got hit with a cold snap unexpectedly and haven’t switched to my winter set up yet. Was just curious if they were going to be damaged driving on them at those temps, wasn’t aggressive, just getting home. Thanks for all the info guys.

 

[kz]

You'll be more than fine. I drove not only on Michelins but on 200TW ("Ultra High Performance") tires in freezing temps and they were more than fine (other than being hard).

 

[rocsteady]

When the tire manufacturer tells you not to drive below a certain temp, it’s because they’ve had failures, not because they want to create an inconvenience for everyone who bought their product. It means they’re warning you because they know of a problem and by making you aware they are relieving themselves of liability. So casually telling someone, “you’ll be fine” to ignore a known problem is not very good advice. “YMMV” and “ignore at your own risk” are much better, in my opinion. It’s not worth it to me to destroy a set of tires, best case, have a tire fail, worst case. But “you’ll be fine” from anyone other than the manufacturer is not advice I’d follow.

 

[kz]

When the tire manufacturer tells you not to drive below a certain temp, it’s because they’ve had failures, not because they want to create an inconvenience for everyone who bought their product. It means they’re warning you because they know of a problem and by making you aware they are relieving themselves of liability. So casually telling someone, “you’ll be fine” to ignore a known problem is not very good advice. “YMMV” and “ignore at your own risk” are much better, in my opinion. It’s not worth it to me to destroy a set of tires, best case, have a tire fail, worst case. But “you’ll be fine” from anyone other than the manufacturer is not advice I’d follow.

Cool story.

 

[SheepDog]

Miss read the weather, thought the low was going to be 36, guess the “feels like” is supposed to be 18-20 degrees. I left the house for work tonight still on my summer tires, 555r2 rear, ps4s front. Nitto says 15 degrees but worried about the michilens, they say don’t drive below 40. Are they going to be toast?

"feels like" has to do with wind chill, and does not effect tires, or anything else that is not alive.

 

[KingKona]

It was 31 degrees this morning on my drive into work.

Nothing exploded, chunked, or split. The ride, handling and braking were perfectly fine. As good as on an 80 degree day? No. But still better than 99% of other vehicles on the road.

IMO these manufacturer warnings are based on tires from 15 years ago, when MPSO tires really were shit below 70 degrees. Anyone that owned a 2011-2014 Mustang GT with the Track Pack, and their horrendously crappy Pirelli tires (Mercedes Original Pirellis), would know what I'm talking about. Tire technology has evolved dramatically since then.

Having said all of the above, I DD'd my 2012 TP GT on those horrendous Pirellis, and didn't have the slightest issue, unless there was snow/ice.

 

[Ironpeddler]

You could be ruining the tires today. They develop micro cracks when used in cold temps, could split/get worse in the future, probably hard to know or say.

Same happened to me with the Pirelli Summer tires that came on the car new. Micro cracks on the sidewalls of all four tires. Never abused the car or tracked it. The day I was switching over to Michelin AS tires, the rear passenger tire was dead flat in my driveway. Made it to the tire place with 6lbs of air after filling it to 40lbs at home….12 miles away. The tech that swapped out the tires said there was a bigger crack on the inside sidewall.
I never drove the car below 45 degrees with the summer tire on it. YMMV

 

[geep81]

I never drove the car below 45 degrees with the summer tire on it. YMMV

I started storing my summers in the basement, I have a detached garage and even got scared now of the 0 degree days when the tires are just sitting there off the car.

 

[ORRadtech]

When the tire manufacturer tells you not to drive below a certain temp, it’s because they’ve had failures, not because they want to create an inconvenience for everyone who bought their product. It means they’re warning you because they know of a problem and by making you aware they are relieving themselves of liability.

More likely they got sued.
Like McDonald's really needs to tell you that your hot coffee is hot. Yet they put that warning on every cup...

Before I switched to Contenentals I drove the factory Perillies in 4" of snow. They surprised me how well they did. Didn't really keep them long enough to know if that damaged them.

 

[young at heart]

I started storing my summers in the basement, I have a detached garage and even got scared now of the 0 degree days when the tires are just sitting there off the car.

This right here raises a good question.

For the most part there is some agreement on driving summer tires in cold weather. But what about cars on PS4s tires that are stored or garaged in cold weather? My garage isn’t heated but still is usually a few degrees warmer than outside ambient temp. And there were a few days last Christmas when it got down to around 0* outside and stayed below freezing for a few days. No stored soft drinks stored in the garage actually froze but still I wonder about the tires. They seem OK but ??

 

[KingKona]

They seem OK but ??

But what? What can you not accept about what your own experiences tell you?

If it's fine to drive on them in the cold (and it is), it's fine to store the car with them on.

90% of this thread is OCD-based fear of a non-existent boogeyman. Put emotions away and deal with facts. What your (and others) personal experiences tell you.

 

[ORRadtech]

This right here raises a good question.

For the most part there is some agreement on driving summer tires in cold weather. But what about cars on PS4s tires that are stored or garaged in cold weather? My garage isn’t heated but still is usually a few degrees warmer than outside ambient temp. And there were a few days last Christmas when it got down to around 0* outside and stayed below freezing for a few days. No stored soft drinks stored in the garage actually froze but still I wonder about the tires. They seem OK but ??

A few thoughts;
The warnings I've seen all have to do with mounting or driving them in those temps. In other words, things that stress the tires sidewalls when overly cold.
I seriously doubt that all tire warehouses are climate controlled so they've probably been cold before.
Liquids didn't freeze, your ties are fine.
There's been no recommendation I've seen about storing tires. As long as the sidewalls aren't stressed in temps below manufacturer recommendation I seriously doubt there's a problem.

 

[Mustang_Lou]

Someone in a warmer climate check their tire sidewalls and see if there are any micro-cracks ... bet there are.

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