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I've been trying to get an answer about this since last week. I'm about to order new control arms for my car because mine are creaking and squeaking like crazy. Has anyone ordered these (link below), and are they all four control arms or are they separate (as in only lower or only upper?). Messaged Steeda on here but no response yet, and I want to order asap because I can't stand driving on a broken mattress. Just want to fix this stupid creaking.


https://www.steeda.com/Steeda-S550-...nsion-Links-w-Bushings-2015-2019_p_13985.html
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do you have vertical links? are you lowered atm?
 

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Um...
These are for the front...
What you see is what you get.
There is no upper on a McPherson strut
 
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do you have vertical links? are you lowered atm?
I don't have vertical links yet, and am stock height, but do plan on lowering the car a little bit. Now that I read the description again I do see that the lateral arms have the extended ball joint, will that be a problem for factory height until I lower?

Um...
These are for the front...
What you see is what you get.
There is no upper on a McPherson strut
I know they're for the front, but there are four total arms on the front. There's a tension arm and a lateral arm per side (DS/PS). I just want to know am I ordering just DS or just PS.
 

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I've been trying to get an answer about this since last week. I'm about to order new control arms for my car because mine are creaking and squeaking like crazy. Has anyone ordered these (link below), and are they all four control arms or are they separate (as in only lower or only upper?). Messaged Steeda on here but no response yet, and I want to order asap because I can't stand driving on a broken mattress. Just want to fix this stupid creaking.


https://www.steeda.com/Steeda-S550-...nsion-Links-w-Bushings-2015-2019_p_13985.html
The description is for a pair of the tension link and lateral link. This is a great upgrade for any lowered S550 even if just lowered a half inch.
Definitely decreases roll in the front by raising the front roll center, improves steering response as well!

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The description is for a pair of the tension link and lateral link. This is a great upgrade for any lowered S550 even if just lowered a half inch.
Definitely decreases roll in the front by raising the front roll center, improves steering response as well!

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So I'd have to order two to replace for driver/passenger sides? If that's the case I gotta go with the PP set because it includes all four links/arms.

Also do the extended ball joints have any effect on a factory ride height car.
 

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So I'd have to order two to replace for driver/passenger sides? If that's the case I gotta go with the PP set because it includes all four links/arms.

Also do the extended ball joints have any effect on a factory ride height car.
I’m assuming a pair would be 2 of each since a pair wouldn’t be one of each. Steeda would list it in the description if 2 were needed since I believe the control arms are unique to each side.
 
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I’m assuming a pair would be 2 of each since a pair wouldn’t be one of each. Steeda would list it in the description if 2 were needed since I believe the control arms are unique to each side.

If that's the case and Steeda can confirm, I'll order right now. I was assuming this as well, just them being slightly less than the PP set kind of threw me off.

Also need to make sure the extended ball stud won't be an issue because the car isn't lowered yet.
 

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The roll center corrected lateral links will change your front geometry. They’re designed to correct the geometry on a lowered cars. Probably not desired because you are at stock ride height/geometry.
 

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I just online chatted with Steeda to ask your question for you and they confirmed it comes with enough to do both sides.
 

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Also need to make sure the extended ball stud won't be an issue because the car isn't lowered yet.
Whether you're lowered or not, you may be in for bumpsteer correction. Changing the LCA inclination also moves the front view instant center, while the tierod will still be aimed at the old FVIC.

The quickest way I know of to diagnose that you have a bumpsteer issue is to drive around a curve that has a few gentle heaves in the pavement. If you find yourself sawing away at the steering wheel in sync with the heaves so you can follow a single arc, you almost certainly have excessive bumpsteer.


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Whether you're lowered or not, you may be in for bumpsteer correction. Changing the LCA inclination also moves the front view instant center, while the tierod will still be aimed at the old FVIC.

The quickest way I know of to diagnose that you have a bumpsteer issue is to drive around a curve that has a few gentle heaves in the pavement. If you find yourself sawing away at the steering wheel in sync with the heaves so you can follow a single arc, you almost certainly have excessive bumpsteer.


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Hmm I've never tried this, not sure where I would, I tried on the highway but the car is overall pretty stable. Only misbehaves really on imperfections on the road, but I don't think that's really bump steer? For instance I do have to be cautious when the wheel is turned and I go over something bumpy so it doesn't jerk too much...but I don't think that's bump steer, that's probably just factory suspension.

Also in the current state of my suspension I'm avoiding every imperfection like the plague, this thing is creaking and squeaking at every little thing. Maybe I'll just order the factory replacements.
 

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"Bump steer" is a rather misleading term, as it implies small physical unevennesses in the road and sharp impacts when you hit them. More properly, it's "ride steer", where the wheels steer slightly as the wheel moves vertically (where "ride" means the mostly vertical movement of the wheel/tire/knuckle that you might know by names such as 'bump' or 'jounce' and 'rebound').

Link for a college-level discussion: http://www.millikenresearch.com/MMM410man.pdf

That's why I'd have you looking for smooth heaves in the road that your car gently rises and falls as you cross them, so that the harshness thing isn't clouding your observations. And in a turn, partly because the amount the car is rolling adds to the vertical movements from the road, exaggerating the part of the steering effect coming from the suspension geometry (what you're trying to counteract by sawing away at the wheel).

There are ways to measure this, but they involve equipment that you're unlikely to find outside of a race shop or - maybe - in the tool collection of a very serious and very committed amateur. Once you've rounded that stuff up, the task of measuring it generally requires removing the springs.


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