Steeda billet vertical links installed

[Anthony]

Replacing factory steel control arms with billet alum is a proven way to improve handling. No matter how hard you try to "mind engineer" over it.

Adjustable heim arms work also, but will increase noise. No way around it.


Explain "suspicious of delrin"

It transfers less noise that alum bushings. And is still very solid

Sponsored

 

[Anthony]

Bushing might make a difference...The link, If you say so.
I'm going with heim joints. JK

"Might" ????

Clearly you haven't a clue.


Go with heim. It might make a difference if you know how to adjust it. Given that you think delrin "might" make a difference over rubber......... Im guessing not


An all heim joint irs would be ideal for a drag car and or turner, but it's overkill for a street car.

Make sure you replace the heims with the wear out too. It's not a set it and forget it deal

I replace heims in my coupe once a year.

 

[BathS550]

I really want to order these, the steeda sway bars and their IRS wheep hop kit ... but I'm concerned that I'll be sad that I didnt wait for the bmr kit ... this is what keeps me up at night.

#thestruggleisreal

 

[Free Agent]

The question was asked earlier, I'll ask again. How about weights of the stock units vs. these? I would think these would be a hair lighter but would love to hear from Steeda. Thanks.

 

[David@Steeda]

The question was asked earlier, I'll ask again. How about weights of the stock units vs. these? I would think these would be a hair lighter but would love to hear from Steeda. Thanks.

Here you go:

Stock: 1.58 lbs
Steeda's: 1.68 lbs

 

[Daytona Coupe]

Replacing factory steel control arms with billet alum is a proven way to improve handling. No matter how hard you try to "mind engineer" over it.

Adjustable heim arms work also, but will increase noise. No way around it.


Explain "suspicious of delrin"

It transfers less noise that alum bushings. And is still very solid

Okay... I'm suspicious because it's a bushing. A delrin bushing is going to work well in one axis, and do a really poor job (bind) in anything other than that one axis. I could be wrong, but from looking at the design of the rear suspension, it looks to me that the delrin bushing might try to bind when cycled through the range of travel. This was a common problem when guys tried to put delrin bushings in a fox rear-end. Not that this is the same thing, but I'd want to look at it carefully before I'd go with a bushing here over a heim. Maybe I'm off base here and it's fine. That's why I said suspicious instead of something like disappointed or horrified.

 

[Norm Peterson]

Replacing factory steel control arms with billet alum is a proven way to improve handling. No matter how hard you try to "mind engineer" over it.

I'd be a bit careful about extending the benefits of aluminum for control arms - such as you'd find on a Corvette - to this link. It may or may not be more rigid than the OE steel piece, or it may or may not be more rigid in comparison to its weight. But in either case either way the amount of axial stretching or compressing under load is going to be absolutely negligible.

The metal part of any suspension link that's loaded in either tension or compression is by far the stiffest part of the assembly (the "assembly" necessarily including any bushing details). I would expect the axial stretching or compression of any reasonable integral link to be on the order of a couple thousandths of an inch per thousand lbs of link force. I doubt that many people would notice double or even triple that much, at least not via their "butt-dyno".

An OE bushing might deflect 30 or more times as much under the same load (times two assuming similar bushings at the two ends), and this much you're going to be a whole lot more likely to notice. Kind of a long way of saying that when you go about improving the accuracy of suspension movements that all the low-hanging fruit is in the bushings/link end connections.

Then you make your link to suit your bushing, with plenty of "slack" to make the end product appealing for reasons beyond its pure function. No harm in doing this, not at all.

Explain "suspicious of delrin"

Delrin's much higher stiffness than rubber is its own downside if the link is forced by suspension geometry to rotate about any axis except the one running through the center of the bolt that holds the pivot joint together. Should this be the case, "unexpected" suspension loads and stiffness will result, unless some feature within the bushing permits free rotation in such other directions.

I don't expect any of the Steeda representatives to confirm or deny any of that, or even that this link must undergo multi-axis rotation. Certainly not in any detail. But it is based on having a little experience tinkering with bushings of different types and materials.


Norm

 

[David@Steeda]

Comparison between the OE vertical links and the Steeda vertical links - notice how easily the OE links bend/flex:

OE links (click to see video)



Steeda links (click to see video)

 

[Tubalkayne]

I'm convinced!

 

[TonyN]

Anthony, have you had any descent weather to test these out yet?

Any improvement with wheel hop?

 

[MustangCollector]

just had my alignment done took over 2 hours, would i need to have another alignment done if i installed these links myself? they look fairly easy to install.

 

[Free Agent]

Here you go:

Stock: 1.58 lbs
Steeda's: 1.68 lbs

Thanks. Woulda thunk the AL lighter than the steel but .1 pounds is fairly insignificant especially if it improves handling. Thanks for the reply.

 

[David@Steeda]

just had my alignment done took over 2 hours, would i need to have another alignment done if i installed these links myself? they look fairly easy to install.

No alignment needed!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[2wheels4me]

Ordered, along with the bushing supports!

 

[D3adch1ld]

I already received all my Steeda parts, the Vertical Links and the Sway bar brackets as unbelievable. Pictures don't do justice at all. Beautiful pieces. I'll get the Steeda springs, sway bar with billetes brackets, vertical link, adj. toe link, G-travk brace, IRS bushings bump steer kit and trans bushing once my Flowmaster catback arrives next week. All the parts from Steeda are extremely impressive and seem very well made. I'm super excited about my purchase.

Sponsored